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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: Piotr Krukowiecki <piotr.krukowiecki.news@gmail.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Consistent terminology: cached/staged/index
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:51:39 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110226215139.GA19176@elie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik-jc0ZX9S4bCYV8VBgPXJZsX0U08W2H+jufO8r@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Felipe et al,

Felipe Contreras wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> wrote:

>>  - mode and blob name for paths as requested by the user with
>>   "git add"
>
> A commit stage.
>
>>  - competing versions for paths whose proposed content is
>>   uncertain during a merge
>
> Multiple commit stages.
>
>>  - stat(2) information to speed up comparison with the worktree
>
> If only a subset of the files are there, it's an 'index', if not, then
> I'd say it's a 'registry'.

These terms you suggest aren't the established ones (as I'm sure you
know).  Just as with everyday language, there is some resistance to
moving to new terms that have not been established for a while.  In
everyday language, many terms gained popularity by

 - appearing in some document that people read for another reason
 - describing the notion they are meant to describe clearly (or
   having some other feature that makes them likeable)

This is how "staging area" has been gaining popularity, I think ---
some (out-of-tree) documentation that is good for other reasons uses
it, and it really does seem to be a clearer term than "index" for
"place where the next commit is being prepared".  Unfortunately, I do
not think it is a clearer term than "index" for "the git index, which
contains stat() information and pointers to blobs that either belong
in the next commit or are participating in a merge conflict".  So it
does not seem to justify rewriting everything to use it.

Which suggests one way forward --- if you believe you have terms that
do describe those concepts clearly, one way to promote them is to
write some good, clear (out-of-tree, to begin with) documentation
using them.  Presumably this documentation would also mention that
other people use other terms to avoid confusing the reader.

Hope that helps,
Jonathan

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-26 21:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-13 19:20 Consistent terminology: cached/staged/index Piotr Krukowiecki
2011-02-13 19:37 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-13 22:58   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14  2:05     ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14  5:57       ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14  6:27         ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14  6:59           ` Johannes Sixt
2011-02-14  7:07             ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14 10:42               ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-14 11:04                 ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14 17:12                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14 22:07                     ` Miles Bader
2011-02-14 22:59                       ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14 23:47                         ` Miles Bader
2011-02-15  0:12                           ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-14 13:14                 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-02-14 13:43                   ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-14 13:57                     ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-02-14 14:17                     ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-14 14:21                       ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-02-14 14:40                         ` Jakub Narebski
2011-02-14 15:24                       ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-14 16:00                         ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-14 16:04                           ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-14 16:27                             ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-14  3:09     ` Pete Harlan
2011-02-16 23:11       ` Drew Northup
2011-02-26 20:36         ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-27 15:30           ` Drew Northup
2011-02-27 21:16       ` Aghiles
2011-02-28 20:53         ` Drew Northup
2011-02-14 22:32     ` Piotr Krukowiecki
2011-02-14 23:19       ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-15  8:29         ` Pete Harlan
2011-02-15  9:00           ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-15 18:15         ` Piotr Krukowiecki
2011-02-15 18:38           ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-26 21:09         ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-26 21:51           ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2011-02-27  0:01             ` Miles Bader
2011-02-27  0:16             ` Felipe Contreras
2011-02-27  0:46               ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-02-27  8:15               ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-27  8:43           ` Jeff King
2011-02-27  9:21             ` Miles Bader
2011-02-27 22:28               ` Jon Seymour
2011-02-27 23:57                 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-02-28  9:38                   ` Michael J Gruber
2011-02-27 15:34             ` Drew Northup
2011-02-28 23:03               ` Jeff King
2011-03-01  9:11                 ` David
2011-03-01  9:15                   ` Matthieu Moy
2011-03-01  9:32                     ` Alexei Sholik
2011-03-01 17:02                       ` Drew Northup
2011-03-01 17:30                         ` Alexei Sholik
2011-03-01 17:41                           ` Drew Northup
2011-03-01  9:27                   ` Alexey Feldgendler
2011-03-01 16:46                     ` Drew Northup
2011-03-04 17:18                       ` Felipe Contreras
2011-03-05  4:53                         ` Miles Bader
2011-03-05  5:00                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-06 12:44                           ` Drew Northup
     [not found]               ` <878466.93199.1298934204331.JavaMail.trustmail@mail1.terreactive.ch>
2011-03-01  8:43                 ` Victor Engmark
2011-02-27 18:46           ` Phil Hord
2011-03-01 10:29 ` Jonathan Nieder

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