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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Anuradha Ratnaweera <anuradha@gnu.org>,
	Tom Sightler <ttsig@tuxyturvy.com>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <mikeg@wen-online.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>, John Stoffel <stoffel@casc.com>,
	Roger Larsson <roger.larsson@norran.net>,
	thunder7@xs4all.nl, Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Early flush (was: spindown)
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 13:14:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01062413144504.00430@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0106171156410.318-100000@mikeg.weiden.de> <993070731.3b310e8b4e51e@eargle.com> <20010624092038.A242@bee.lk>
In-Reply-To: <20010624092038.A242@bee.lk>

On Sunday 24 June 2001 05:20, Anuradha Ratnaweera wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 04:58:51PM -0400, Tom Sightler wrote:
> > 1.  When running a compile, or anything else that produces lots of small
> > disk writes, you tend to get lots of little pauses for all the little
> > writes to disk. These seem to be unnoticable without the patch.
> >
> > 2.  Loading programs when writing activity is occuring (even light
> > activity like during the compile) is noticable slower, actually any
> > reading from disk is.
> >
> > I also ran my simple ftp test that produced the symptom I reported
> > earlier.  I transferred a 750MB file via FTP, and with your patch sure
> > enough disk writing started almost immediately, but it still didn't seem
> > to write enough data to disk to keep up with the transfer so at
> > approximately the 200MB mark the old behavior still kicked in as it went
> > into full flush mode, during the time network activity halted, just like
> > before.
>
> It is not uncommon to have a large number of tmp files on the disk(s) (Rik
> also pointed this out somewhere early in the original thread) and it is
> sensible to keep all of them in buffers if RAM is sufficient. Transfering
> _very_ large files is not _that_ common so why shouldn't that case be
> handled from the user space by calling sync(2)?

The patch you're discussing has been superceded - check my "[RFC] Early 
flush: new, improved" post from yesterday.  This addresses the problem of 
handling tmp files efficiently while still having the early flush.

The latest patch shows no degradation at all for compilation, which uses lots 
of temporary files.

--
Daniel 

  reply	other threads:[~2001-06-24 11:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-13 19:31 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior Tom Sightler
2001-06-13 20:21 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-14  1:49   ` Tom Sightler
2001-06-14  3:16     ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-14  7:59       ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-06-14  9:24         ` Helge Hafting
2001-06-14 17:38           ` Mark Hahn
2001-06-15  8:27             ` Helge Hafting
2001-06-14  8:47       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-14 20:23         ` Roger Larsson
2001-06-15  6:04           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-14 20:39         ` John Stoffel
2001-06-14 20:51           ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-14 21:33           ` John Stoffel
2001-06-14 22:23             ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-15 15:23           ` spindown [was Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior] Pavel Machek
2001-06-16 20:50             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-16 21:06               ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-16 21:25                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-16 21:44                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-16 21:54                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-17 10:28                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-17 10:05                   ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-17 12:49                     ` (lkml)Re: " thunder7
2001-06-17 16:40                       ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-18 14:22                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-19  4:35                       ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-20  1:50                       ` [RFC] Early flush (was: spindown) Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20 20:58                         ` Tom Sightler
2001-06-20 22:09                           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-24  3:20                           ` Anuradha Ratnaweera
2001-06-24 11:14                             ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2001-06-24 15:06                             ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-24 16:21                               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20  4:39                       ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-20 14:29                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20 16:12                         ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-22 23:25                           ` Daniel Kobras
2001-06-23  5:10                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-25 11:33                               ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-25 11:31                           ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-18 20:21             ` spindown Simon Huggins
2001-06-19 10:46               ` spindown Pavel Machek
2001-06-20 16:52                 ` spindown Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20 17:32                   ` spindown Rik van Riel
2001-06-20 18:00                     ` spindown Daniel Phillips
2001-06-21 16:07                 ` spindown Jamie Lokier
2001-06-22 22:09                   ` spindown Daniel Kobras
2001-06-28  0:27                   ` spindown Troy Benjegerdes
2001-06-14 15:10       ` 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior John Stoffel
2001-06-14 18:25         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-14  8:30   ` Mike Galbraith

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