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From: John Stoffel <stoffel@casc.com>
To: Roger Larsson <roger.larsson@norran.net>
Cc: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>,
	Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:39:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15145.8435.312548.682190@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200106142030.f5EKUWH19842@maile.telia.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0106140013000.14934-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva> <01061410474103.00879@starship> <200106142030.f5EKUWH19842@maile.telia.com>


Roger> It does if you are running on a laptop. Then you do not want
Roger> the pages go out all the time. Disk has gone too sleep, needs
Roger> to start to write a few pages, stays idle for a while, goes to
Roger> sleep, a few more pages, ...

That could be handled by a metric which says if the disk is spun down,
wait until there is more memory pressure before writing.  But if the
disk is spinning, we don't care, you should start writing out buffers
at some low rate to keep the pressure from rising too rapidly.  

The idea of buffers is more to keep from overloading the disk
subsystem with IO, not to stop IO from happening at all.  And to keep
it from going from no IO to full out stalling the system IO.  It
should be a nice line as VM pressure goes up, buffer flushing IO rate
goes up as well.  

Overall, I think Rik, Jonathan and the rest of the hard core VM crew
have been doing a great job with 2.4.5+ work, it seems like it's
getting better and better all the time, and I really appreciate it.

We're now more into some corner cases and tuning issues.  Hopefully.

John
   John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies
	 stoffel@lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-952-7548

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-06-14 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-13 19:31 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior Tom Sightler
2001-06-13 20:21 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-14  1:49   ` Tom Sightler
2001-06-14  3:16     ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-14  7:59       ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-06-14  9:24         ` Helge Hafting
2001-06-14 17:38           ` Mark Hahn
2001-06-15  8:27             ` Helge Hafting
2001-06-14  8:47       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-14 20:23         ` Roger Larsson
2001-06-15  6:04           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-14 20:39         ` John Stoffel [this message]
2001-06-14 20:51           ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-14 21:33           ` John Stoffel
2001-06-14 22:23             ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-15 15:23           ` spindown [was Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior] Pavel Machek
2001-06-16 20:50             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-16 21:06               ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-16 21:25                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-16 21:44                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-16 21:54                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-17 10:28                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-17 10:05                   ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-17 12:49                     ` (lkml)Re: " thunder7
2001-06-17 16:40                       ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-18 14:22                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-19  4:35                       ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-20  1:50                       ` [RFC] Early flush (was: spindown) Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20 20:58                         ` Tom Sightler
2001-06-20 22:09                           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-24  3:20                           ` Anuradha Ratnaweera
2001-06-24 11:14                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-24 15:06                             ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-24 16:21                               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20  4:39                       ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-20 14:29                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20 16:12                         ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-22 23:25                           ` Daniel Kobras
2001-06-23  5:10                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-25 11:33                               ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-25 11:31                           ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-18 20:21             ` spindown Simon Huggins
2001-06-19 10:46               ` spindown Pavel Machek
2001-06-20 16:52                 ` spindown Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20 17:32                   ` spindown Rik van Riel
2001-06-20 18:00                     ` spindown Daniel Phillips
2001-06-21 16:07                 ` spindown Jamie Lokier
2001-06-22 22:09                   ` spindown Daniel Kobras
2001-06-28  0:27                   ` spindown Troy Benjegerdes
2001-06-14 15:10       ` 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior John Stoffel
2001-06-14 18:25         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-14  8:30   ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.10.10106140024230.980-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2001-06-14  2:08 ` Tom Sightler

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