From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
Anton Arapov <anton@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] percpu_rw_semaphore: reimplement to not block the readers unnecessarily
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 17:18:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121102161815.GA24256@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121101183324.GA30442@redhat.com>
On 11/01, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> On 11/01, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >
> > OK, so it looks to me that this code relies on synchronize_sched()
> > forcing a memory barrier on each CPU executing in the kernel.
>
> No, the patch tries to avoid this assumption, but probably I missed
> something.
>
> > 1. A task running on CPU 0 currently write-holds the lock.
> >
> > 2. CPU 1 is running in the kernel, executing a longer-than-average
> > loop of normal instructions (no atomic instructions or memory
> > barriers).
> >
> > 3. CPU 0 invokes percpu_up_write(), calling up_write(),
> > synchronize_sched(), and finally mutex_unlock().
>
> And my expectation was, this should be enough because ...
>
> > 4. CPU 1 executes percpu_down_read(), which calls update_fast_ctr(),
>
> since update_fast_ctr does preempt_disable/enable it should see all
> modifications done by CPU 0.
>
> IOW. Suppose that the writer (CPU 0) does
>
> percpu_done_write();
> STORE;
> percpu_up_write();
>
> This means
>
> STORE;
> synchronize_sched();
> mutex_unlock();
>
> Now. Do you mean that the next preempt_disable/enable can see the
> result of mutex_unlock() but not STORE?
So far I think this is not possible, so the code doesn't need the
additional wstate/barriers.
> > +static bool update_fast_ctr(struct percpu_rw_semaphore *brw, int val)
> > +{
> > + bool success = false;
>
> int state;
>
> > +
> > + preempt_disable();
> > + if (likely(!mutex_is_locked(&brw->writer_mutex))) {
>
> state = ACCESS_ONCE(brw->wstate);
> if (likely(!state)) {
>
> > + __this_cpu_add(*brw->fast_read_ctr, val);
> > + success = true;
>
> } else if (state & WSTATE_NEED_MB) {
> __this_cpu_add(*brw->fast_read_ctr, val);
> smb_mb(); /* Order increment against critical section. */
> success = true;
> }
...
> > +void percpu_up_write(struct percpu_rw_semaphore *brw)
> > +{
> > + /* allow the new readers, but only the slow-path */
> > + up_write(&brw->rw_sem);
>
> ACCESS_ONCE(brw->wstate) = WSTATE_NEED_MB;
>
> > +
> > + /* insert the barrier before the next fast-path in down_read */
> > + synchronize_sched();
But update_fast_ctr() should see mutex_is_locked(), obiously down_write()
must ensure this.
So update_fast_ctr() can execute the WSTATE_NEED_MB code only if it
races with
> ACCESS_ONCE(brw->wstate) = 0;
>
> > + mutex_unlock(&brw->writer_mutex);
these 2 stores and sees them in reverse order.
I guess that mutex_is_locked() in update_fast_ctr() looks a bit confusing.
It means no-fast-path for the reader, we could use ->state instead.
And even ->writer_mutex should go away if we want to optimize the
write-contended case, but I think this needs another patch on top of
this initial implementation.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-02 16:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-15 19:09 [RFC PATCH 0/2] uprobes: register/unregister can race with fork Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-15 19:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] brw_mutex: big read-write mutex Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-15 23:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-16 15:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-16 18:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-17 16:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-17 22:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-16 19:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-17 16:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-17 22:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-18 16:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-18 16:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-18 17:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-18 19:28 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-19 12:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-19 15:32 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-19 17:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-19 17:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-19 22:54 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-24 3:08 ` Dave Chinner
2012-10-25 14:09 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-25 23:40 ` Dave Chinner
2012-10-26 12:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-26 13:22 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-26 14:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-26 15:23 ` mark_files_ro && sb_end_write Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-26 16:09 ` [PATCH 1/2] brw_mutex: big read-write mutex Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-19 17:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-22 23:09 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-23 15:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-19 19:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-22 23:36 ` [PATCH 0/2] fix and improvements for percpu-rw-semaphores (was: brw_mutex: big read-write mutex) Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-22 23:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] percpu-rw-semaphores: use light/heavy barriers Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-22 23:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] percpu-rw-semaphores: use rcu_read_lock_sched Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-24 16:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-24 17:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-24 18:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-24 18:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-24 19:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-25 14:54 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-25 15:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-25 16:15 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-23 16:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] percpu-rw-semaphores: use light/heavy barriers Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-23 18:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-23 18:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-23 18:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-23 20:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-23 20:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-23 21:39 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-24 16:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-24 20:22 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-24 20:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-24 20:44 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-24 23:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-25 12:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-25 13:48 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-23 19:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-23 20:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-23 20:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-24 15:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-23 21:26 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-23 20:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-30 18:48 ` [PATCH 0/2] fix and improvements for percpu-rw-semaphores (was: brw_mutex: big read-write mutex) Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-31 19:41 ` [PATCH 0/1] percpu_rw_semaphore: reimplement to not block the readers unnecessarily Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-31 19:41 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-01 15:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-01 15:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-02 18:06 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-02 18:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-07 17:04 ` [PATCH v3 " Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-07 17:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-07 19:17 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-08 13:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-08 1:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-08 1:16 ` [PATCH v2 " Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-08 13:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-08 16:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-08 13:48 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 0/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-08 13:48 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-08 20:07 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-08 21:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-08 23:41 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-09 0:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-09 3:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-09 16:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-09 16:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-09 12:47 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-09 15:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-09 17:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-09 18:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-09 18:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-10 0:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-11 15:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-12 18:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-11 18:27 ` [PATCH -mm] percpu_rw_semaphore-reimplement-to-not-block-the-readers-unnecessari ly.fix Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-12 18:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-16 23:22 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-18 19:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-01 15:43 ` [PATCH 1/1] percpu_rw_semaphore: reimplement to not block the readers unnecessarily Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-01 18:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-02 16:18 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2012-10-15 19:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] uprobes: Use brw_mutex to fix register/unregister vs dup_mmap() race Oleg Nesterov
2012-10-18 7:03 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-11-04 8:47 [PATCH 1/1] percpu_rw_semaphore: reimplement to not block the readers unnecessarily George Spelvin
2012-11-04 15:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
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