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From: Alistair Francis <alistair23@gmail.com>
To: Daniel Henrique Barboza <dbarboza@ventanamicro.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-riscv@nongnu.org,
	alistair.francis@wdc.com,  bmeng@tinylab.org,
	liweiwei@iscas.ac.cn, zhiwei_liu@linux.alibaba.com,
	 palmer@rivosinc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/10] riscv: RVA22U64 profile support
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:23:14 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKmqyKNAPoe+X3w6TzpWZaMgkUj4dxyY=XubwguqbYrc0sLkzQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a89189d3-2975-487e-9d2e-bd8ea60feba5@ventanamicro.com>

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 5:07 AM Daniel Henrique Barboza
<dbarboza@ventanamicro.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 10/11/23 00:01, Alistair Francis wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 12:23 AM Daniel Henrique Barboza
> > <dbarboza@ventanamicro.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Several design changes were made in this version after the reviews and
> >> feedback in the v1 [1]. The high-level summary is:
> >>
> >> - we'll no longer allow users to set profile flags for vendor CPUs. If
> >>    we're to adhere to the current policy of not allowing users to enable
> >>    extensions for vendor CPUs, the profile support would become a
> >>    glorified way of checking if the vendor CPU happens to support a
> >>    specific profile. If a future vendor CPU supports a profile the CPU
> >>    can declare it manually in its cpu_init() function, the flag will
> >>    still be set, but users can't change it;
> >>
> >> - disabling a profile will now disable all the mandatory extensions from
> >>    the CPU;
> >
> > What happens if you enable one profile and disable a different one?
>
> With this implementation as is the profiles will be evaluated by the order they're
> declared in riscv_cpu_profiles[]. Which isn't exactly ideal since we're exchanging
> a left-to-right ordering in the command line by an arbitrary order that we happened
> to set in the code.
>
> I can make some tweaks to make the profiles sensible to left-to-right order between
> them, while keeping regular extension with higher priority. e.g.:
>
>
> -cpu rv64,zicbom=true,profileA=false,profileB=true,zicboz=false
> -cpu rv64,profileA=false,zicbom=true,zicboz=false,profileB=true
> -cpu rv64,profileA=false,profileB=true,zicbom=true,zicboz=false

I think we should just not allow this.

I don't understand why a user would want this and what they mean here.
What if profileA and profileB have overlapping extensions?

Alistair

>
> These would all do the same thing: "keeping zicbom=true and zicboz=false, disable profileA
> and then enable profile B"
>
> Switching the profiles order would have a different result:
>
> -cpu rv64,profileB=true,profileA=false,zicbom=true,zicboz=false
>
> "keeping zicbom=true and zicboz=false, enable profile B and then disable profile A"
>
>
> I'm happy to hear any other alternative/ideas. We'll either deal with some left-to-right
> ordering w.r.t profiles or deal with an internal profile commit ordering. TBH I think
> it's sensible to demand left-to-right command line ordering for profiles only.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Alistair
> >
> >>
> >> - the profile logic was moved to realize() time in a step we're calling
> >>    'commit profile'. This allows us to enable/disable profile extensions
> >>    after considering user input in other individual extensions. The
> >>    result is that we don't care about the order in which the profile flag
> >>    was set in comparison with other extensions in the command line, i.e.
> >>    the following lines are equal:
> >>
> >>    -cpu rv64,zicbom=false,rva22u64=true,Zifencei=false
> >>
> >>    -cpu rv64,rva22u64=true,zicbom=false,Zifencei=false
> >>
> >>    and they mean 'enable the rva22u64 profile while keeping zicbom and
> >>    Zifencei disabled'.
> >>
> >>
> >> Other minor changes were needed as result of these design changes. E.g.
> >> we're now having to track MISA extensions set by users (patch 7),
> >> something that we were doing only for multi-letter extensions.
> >>
> >> Changes from v1:
> >> - patch 6 from v1 ("target/riscv/kvm: add 'rva22u64' flag as unavailable"):
> >>      - moved up to patch 4
> >> - patch 5 from v1("target/riscv/tcg-cpu.c: enable profile support for vendor CPUs"):
> >>      - dropped
> >> - patch 6 (new):
> >>    - add riscv_cpu_commit_profile()
> >> - patch 7 (new):
> >>    - add user choice hash for MISA extensions
> >> - patch 9 (new):
> >>    - handle MISA bits user choice when commiting profiles
> >> - patch 8 and 10 (new):
> >>    - helpers to avoid code repetition
> >> - v1 link: https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-riscv/20230926194951.183767-1-dbarboza@ventanamicro.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> Daniel Henrique Barboza (10):
> >>    target/riscv/cpu.c: add zicntr extension flag
> >>    target/riscv/cpu.c: add zihpm extension flag
> >>    target/riscv: add rva22u64 profile definition
> >>    target/riscv/kvm: add 'rva22u64' flag as unavailable
> >>    target/riscv/tcg: add user flag for profile support
> >>    target/riscv/tcg: commit profiles during realize()
> >>    target/riscv/tcg: add MISA user options hash
> >>    target/riscv/tcg: add riscv_cpu_write_misa_bit()
> >>    target/riscv/tcg: handle MISA bits on profile commit
> >>    target/riscv/tcg: add hash table insert helpers
> >>
> >>   target/riscv/cpu.c         |  29 +++++++
> >>   target/riscv/cpu.h         |  12 +++
> >>   target/riscv/cpu_cfg.h     |   2 +
> >>   target/riscv/kvm/kvm-cpu.c |   7 +-
> >>   target/riscv/tcg/tcg-cpu.c | 165 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
> >>   5 files changed, 197 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> --
> >> 2.41.0
> >>
> >>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-16  2:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-06 13:21 [PATCH v2 00/10] riscv: RVA22U64 profile support Daniel Henrique Barboza
2023-10-06 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] target/riscv/cpu.c: add zicntr extension flag Daniel Henrique Barboza
2023-10-11  2:51   ` Alistair Francis
2023-10-12 18:23     ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2023-10-06 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] target/riscv/cpu.c: add zihpm " Daniel Henrique Barboza
2023-10-06 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] target/riscv: add rva22u64 profile definition Daniel Henrique Barboza
2023-10-11  2:54   ` Alistair Francis
2023-10-06 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] target/riscv/kvm: add 'rva22u64' flag as unavailable Daniel Henrique Barboza
2023-10-11  2:55   ` Alistair Francis
2023-10-06 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] target/riscv/tcg: add user flag for profile support Daniel Henrique Barboza
2023-10-06 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] target/riscv/tcg: commit profiles during realize() Daniel Henrique Barboza
2023-10-06 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] target/riscv/tcg: add MISA user options hash Daniel Henrique Barboza
2023-10-11  3:03   ` Alistair Francis
2023-10-06 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] target/riscv/tcg: add riscv_cpu_write_misa_bit() Daniel Henrique Barboza
2023-10-11  3:04   ` Alistair Francis
2023-10-06 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] target/riscv/tcg: handle MISA bits on profile commit Daniel Henrique Barboza
2023-10-06 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] target/riscv/tcg: add hash table insert helpers Daniel Henrique Barboza
2023-10-11  3:01 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] riscv: RVA22U64 profile support Alistair Francis
2023-10-12 19:07   ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2023-10-16  2:23     ` Alistair Francis [this message]
2023-10-16  9:03     ` Andrew Jones
2023-10-17  3:55       ` Alistair Francis
2023-10-17  8:08         ` Andrew Jones
2023-10-18 21:45           ` Daniel Henrique Barboza

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