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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:31:06 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1303939866.2513.180.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201104212129.17013.arnd@arndb.de>

On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 21:29 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> 7. Extend the dma_map_ops to have a way for mapping a buffer
>    from dma_alloc_{non,}coherent into user space. We have not
>    discussed that yet, but after thinking this for some time, I
>    believe this would be the right approach to map buffers into
>    user space from code that doesn't care about the underlying
>    hardware.

Yes. There is a dma_mmap_coherent() call that's not part of the "Real"
API but is implemented by some archs and used by Alsa (I added support
for it on powerpc recently).

Maybe that should go into the dma ops.

The question remains, if we ever want to do more complex demand-paged
operations, should we also expose a lower level set of functions to get
struct page out of a dma_alloc_coherent() allocation and to get the
pgprot for the user dma mapping ?

> After all these are in place, building anything on top of
> dma_alloc_{non,}coherent should be much easier. The question
> of passing buffers between V4L and DRM is still completely
> unsolved as far as I can tell, but that discussion might become
> more focused if we can agree on the above points and assume
> that it will be done.

My gut feeling is that it should be done by having V4L use DRM buffers
in the first place...

> I expect that I will have to update the list above as people
> point out mistakes in my assumptions.

Cheers,
Ben.



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From: benh@kernel.crashing.org (Benjamin Herrenschmidt)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:31:06 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1303939866.2513.180.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201104212129.17013.arnd@arndb.de>

On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 21:29 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> 7. Extend the dma_map_ops to have a way for mapping a buffer
>    from dma_alloc_{non,}coherent into user space. We have not
>    discussed that yet, but after thinking this for some time, I
>    believe this would be the right approach to map buffers into
>    user space from code that doesn't care about the underlying
>    hardware.

Yes. There is a dma_mmap_coherent() call that's not part of the "Real"
API but is implemented by some archs and used by Alsa (I added support
for it on powerpc recently).

Maybe that should go into the dma ops.

The question remains, if we ever want to do more complex demand-paged
operations, should we also expose a lower level set of functions to get
struct page out of a dma_alloc_coherent() allocation and to get the
pgprot for the user dma mapping ?

> After all these are in place, building anything on top of
> dma_alloc_{non,}coherent should be much easier. The question
> of passing buffers between V4L and DRM is still completely
> unsolved as far as I can tell, but that discussion might become
> more focused if we can agree on the above points and assume
> that it will be done.

My gut feeling is that it should be done by having V4L use DRM buffers
in the first place...

> I expect that I will have to update the list above as people
> point out mistakes in my assumptions.

Cheers,
Ben.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-27 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 196+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-21 19:29 [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1 Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-21 19:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-21 20:09 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Jesse Barnes
2011-04-21 20:09   ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-21 21:52   ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-04-21 21:52     ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-04-22  0:34     ` KyongHo Cho
2011-04-22  0:34       ` KyongHo Cho
2011-04-26 14:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:28     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:28       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:26     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 15:39     ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-26 15:39       ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-27  7:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27  7:35   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27  8:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27  8:56     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27  9:09     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27  9:09       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 11:02       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 11:02         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 16:16         ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Alex Deucher
2011-04-27 16:16           ` Alex Deucher
2011-04-27 17:44           ` Anca Emanuel
2011-04-27 17:44             ` Anca Emanuel
2011-04-27 20:27             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:27               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:16         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:16           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:21           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 20:21             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 20:26             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:26               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:48               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 20:48                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 21:41               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-27 21:41                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  9:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28  9:30                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 21:07                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28 21:07                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:26                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 11:26                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 11:47                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:47                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:56                       ` Alan Cox
2011-04-29 11:56                         ` Alan Cox
2011-04-29 22:51                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:51                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 12:06                       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 12:06                         ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 13:34                         ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 13:34                           ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 22:55                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:55                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:53                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:53                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-27 10:51     ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-27 10:51       ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-27 21:37   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-27 21:37     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  6:40     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28  6:40       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28  6:46       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-28  6:46         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-28  9:37     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28  9:37       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 10:32       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-28 10:32         ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-28 10:51         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 10:51           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:28           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 12:28             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 13:15             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 13:15               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:29               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:29                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:34                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:34                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:39                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:39                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:58                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:58                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 19:37                   ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-28 19:37                     ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29  0:29                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29  0:29                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29  5:50                       ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29  5:50                         ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29  7:35                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29  7:35                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 10:55                           ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 10:55                             ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 22:50                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:50                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 16:27                           ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 16:27                             ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 22:46                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:46                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-30  2:45                               ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-30  2:45                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29  7:59                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29  7:59                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 16:32                           ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 16:32                             ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 18:29                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 18:29                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 22:15                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 22:15                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-02  4:42                                 ` David Brown
2011-05-02  4:42                                   ` David Brown
2011-05-02 11:26                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-02 11:26                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 22:37                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:37                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 13:42                     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-29 13:42                       ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-29 14:19                       ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 14:19                         ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 15:37                       ` Jordan Crouse
2011-04-29 15:37                         ` Jordan Crouse
2011-04-28 14:38                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-28 14:38                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-29  0:25               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29  0:25                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:21                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 11:21                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 10:41   ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 10:41     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 11:01     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 11:01       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:25       ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:25         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:42         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:42           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:59           ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:59             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 13:02           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 13:02             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 13:19             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 13:19               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 13:56               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 13:56                 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 14:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:30                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27  9:52 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27  9:52   ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 10:43   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 10:43     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 11:08     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 11:08       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28  0:15       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-04-28  0:15         ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
2011-04-28  8:27         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28  8:27           ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28 12:12           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 12:12             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 12:36             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:36               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:48               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 12:48                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-03 14:45             ` Dave Martin
2011-05-03 14:45               ` Dave Martin
2011-04-29 15:41       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 15:41         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 16:42         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-29 16:42           ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-03 15:05     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Laurent Pinchart
2011-05-03 15:05       ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-05-03 15:31       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-03 15:31         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 14:06   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 14:06     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 14:29     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 14:29       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 14:34       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 14:34         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 20:29     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:29       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 21:45   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-27 21:45     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  7:24     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " KyongHo Cho
2011-04-28  7:24       ` KyongHo Cho
2011-04-28  8:31     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28  8:31       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 21:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2011-04-27 21:31   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  9:42   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28  9:42     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 10:27 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 10:27   ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:15   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 12:15     ` Arnd Bergmann

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