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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: "Russell King - ARM Linux" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:26:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201104291326.25634.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1304024836.2513.198.camel@pasglop>

On Thursday 28 April 2011, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > > 
> > > For PCI you can have the flag propagate from the PHB down, for busses
> > > without a bus type (platform) then whoever instanciate them (the
> > > platform code) can set that appropriately.
> > 
> > How can you do that when it changes mid-bus heirarchy?  I'm thinking
> > of the situation where the DRM stuff is on a child bus below the
> > root bus, and the root bus has DMA coherent devices on it but the DRM
> > stuff doesn't.
> 
> But that's not PCI right ? IE. with PCI, coherency is a property of the
> PHB... 

That is my understanding at least, but I'd like to have a confirmation
from the DRM folks.

I believe that the PC graphics cards that have noncoherent DMA mappings
are all of the unified memory (integrated into the northbridge) kind,
so they are not on the same host bridge as all regular PCI devices,
even if they appear as a PCI device.

	Arnd

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:26:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201104291326.25634.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1304024836.2513.198.camel@pasglop>

On Thursday 28 April 2011, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > > 
> > > For PCI you can have the flag propagate from the PHB down, for busses
> > > without a bus type (platform) then whoever instanciate them (the
> > > platform code) can set that appropriately.
> > 
> > How can you do that when it changes mid-bus heirarchy?  I'm thinking
> > of the situation where the DRM stuff is on a child bus below the
> > root bus, and the root bus has DMA coherent devices on it but the DRM
> > stuff doesn't.
> 
> But that's not PCI right ? IE. with PCI, coherency is a property of the
> PHB... 

That is my understanding at least, but I'd like to have a confirmation
from the DRM folks.

I believe that the PC graphics cards that have noncoherent DMA mappings
are all of the unified memory (integrated into the northbridge) kind,
so they are not on the same host bridge as all regular PCI devices,
even if they appear as a PCI device.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-29 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 196+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-21 19:29 [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1 Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-21 19:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-21 20:09 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Jesse Barnes
2011-04-21 20:09   ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-21 21:52   ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-04-21 21:52     ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-04-22  0:34     ` KyongHo Cho
2011-04-22  0:34       ` KyongHo Cho
2011-04-26 14:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:28     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:28       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:26     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 15:39     ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-26 15:39       ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-27  7:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27  7:35   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27  8:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27  8:56     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27  9:09     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27  9:09       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 11:02       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 11:02         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 16:16         ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Alex Deucher
2011-04-27 16:16           ` Alex Deucher
2011-04-27 17:44           ` Anca Emanuel
2011-04-27 17:44             ` Anca Emanuel
2011-04-27 20:27             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:27               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:16         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:16           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:21           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 20:21             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 20:26             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:26               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:48               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 20:48                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 21:41               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-27 21:41                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  9:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28  9:30                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 21:07                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28 21:07                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:26                     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2011-04-29 11:26                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 11:47                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:47                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:56                       ` Alan Cox
2011-04-29 11:56                         ` Alan Cox
2011-04-29 22:51                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:51                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 12:06                       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 12:06                         ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 13:34                         ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 13:34                           ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 22:55                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:55                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:53                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:53                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-27 10:51     ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-27 10:51       ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-27 21:37   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-27 21:37     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  6:40     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28  6:40       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28  6:46       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-28  6:46         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-28  9:37     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28  9:37       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 10:32       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-28 10:32         ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-28 10:51         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 10:51           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:28           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 12:28             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 13:15             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 13:15               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:29               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:29                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:34                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:34                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:39                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:39                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:58                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:58                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 19:37                   ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-28 19:37                     ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29  0:29                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29  0:29                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29  5:50                       ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29  5:50                         ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29  7:35                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29  7:35                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 10:55                           ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 10:55                             ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 22:50                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:50                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 16:27                           ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 16:27                             ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 22:46                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:46                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-30  2:45                               ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-30  2:45                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29  7:59                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29  7:59                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 16:32                           ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 16:32                             ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 18:29                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 18:29                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 22:15                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 22:15                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-02  4:42                                 ` David Brown
2011-05-02  4:42                                   ` David Brown
2011-05-02 11:26                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-02 11:26                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 22:37                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:37                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 13:42                     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-29 13:42                       ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-29 14:19                       ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 14:19                         ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 15:37                       ` Jordan Crouse
2011-04-29 15:37                         ` Jordan Crouse
2011-04-28 14:38                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-28 14:38                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-29  0:25               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29  0:25                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:21                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 11:21                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 10:41   ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 10:41     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 11:01     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 11:01       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:25       ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:25         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:42         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:42           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:59           ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:59             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 13:02           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 13:02             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 13:19             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 13:19               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 13:56               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 13:56                 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 14:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:30                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27  9:52 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27  9:52   ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 10:43   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 10:43     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 11:08     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 11:08       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28  0:15       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-04-28  0:15         ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
2011-04-28  8:27         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28  8:27           ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28 12:12           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 12:12             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 12:36             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:36               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:48               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 12:48                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-03 14:45             ` Dave Martin
2011-05-03 14:45               ` Dave Martin
2011-04-29 15:41       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 15:41         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 16:42         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-29 16:42           ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-03 15:05     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Laurent Pinchart
2011-05-03 15:05       ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-05-03 15:31       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-03 15:31         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 14:06   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 14:06     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 14:29     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 14:29       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 14:34       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 14:34         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 20:29     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:29       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 21:45   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-27 21:45     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  7:24     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " KyongHo Cho
2011-04-28  7:24       ` KyongHo Cho
2011-04-28  8:31     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28  8:31       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 21:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-27 21:31   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28  9:42   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28  9:42     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 10:27 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 10:27   ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:15   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 12:15     ` Arnd Bergmann

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