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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@amd.com>,
	anthony@codemonkey.ws, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] allow multi-core guests: introduce cores= option to -cpu
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:04:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090705150407.GK881@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A50BE5D.5010005@redhat.com>

On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 05:53:17PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 07/05/2009 04:23 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>> I thought of using -smp [processors=]2,cores=4,threads=2 (for a total 
>>> of 16 threads), but I think it makes more sense with -cpu.
>>
>>
>> I actually think putting this in -smp makes more sense. -cpu really  
>> shouldn't need to be touched by normal users and as long as you can  
>> either -cpu host or -cpu safe that should be enough.
>
> Maybe.  But in that case -cpu core2duo should imply cores=2 and -smp 2  
> -cpu core2duo will bring up 4 cores spread across two sockets.
>
core2duo does not imply 2 cores. OSes use cpuid to discover this
information.

>> But then again maybe we should replace -smp with something more useful  
>> like -numa where you'd then specify #CPUs, #cores, mem-cpu connection,  
>> etc.
>
> I'd prefer -numa to specify the memory topology (and connections of  
> sockets to memory nodes), and -smp or -cpu to specify the intra-socket  
> topology.
>
I agree. -numa is a different story. It is possible to have zillion
socket setup without numa at all.

--
			Gleb.

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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@amd.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC] allow multi-core guests: introduce cores= option to -cpu
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:04:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090705150407.GK881@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A50BE5D.5010005@redhat.com>

On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 05:53:17PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 07/05/2009 04:23 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>> I thought of using -smp [processors=]2,cores=4,threads=2 (for a total 
>>> of 16 threads), but I think it makes more sense with -cpu.
>>
>>
>> I actually think putting this in -smp makes more sense. -cpu really  
>> shouldn't need to be touched by normal users and as long as you can  
>> either -cpu host or -cpu safe that should be enough.
>
> Maybe.  But in that case -cpu core2duo should imply cores=2 and -smp 2  
> -cpu core2duo will bring up 4 cores spread across two sockets.
>
core2duo does not imply 2 cores. OSes use cpuid to discover this
information.

>> But then again maybe we should replace -smp with something more useful  
>> like -numa where you'd then specify #CPUs, #cores, mem-cpu connection,  
>> etc.
>
> I'd prefer -numa to specify the memory topology (and connections of  
> sockets to memory nodes), and -smp or -cpu to specify the intra-socket  
> topology.
>
I agree. -numa is a different story. It is possible to have zillion
socket setup without numa at all.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-05 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-03 14:41 [RFC] allow multi-core guests: introduce cores= option to -cpu Andre Przywara
2009-07-03 14:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andre Przywara
2009-07-03 14:52 ` Samuel Thibault
2009-07-03 14:52   ` [Qemu-devel] " Samuel Thibault
2009-07-03 23:28   ` Andre Przywara
2009-07-03 23:53     ` Samuel Thibault
2009-07-03 23:53       ` [Qemu-devel] " Samuel Thibault
2009-07-03 15:16 ` Brian Jackson
2009-07-03 15:16   ` [Qemu-devel] " Brian Jackson
2009-07-03 22:52   ` Andre Przywara
2009-07-03 22:52     ` [Qemu-devel] " Andre Przywara
2009-07-04  0:04     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-04  7:18     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-03 15:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paul Brook
2009-07-03 15:46   ` Paul Brook
2009-07-03 23:45   ` Andre Przywara
2009-07-04  5:58     ` Paul Brook
2009-07-04 15:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-04 15:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-07-05 13:23   ` Alexander Graf
2009-07-05 13:23     ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-07-05 14:53     ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-05 14:53       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-07-05 15:04       ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2009-07-05 15:04         ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-05 15:11         ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-05 15:11           ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-07-05 15:11           ` Alexander Graf
2009-07-05 15:11             ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-07-05 15:17             ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-05 15:17               ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity

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