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From: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
To: dwmw2@infradead.org
Cc: fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp, npiggin@suse.de, jw@emlix.com,
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	Piet.Delaney@tensilica.com
Subject: Re: [LKML] Re: [PATCH v3] ad7877: keep dma rx buffers in seperate cache lines
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:42:51 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100520134455W.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1274281117.6930.10190.camel@macbook.infradead.org>

On Wed, 19 May 2010 15:58:37 +0100
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 23:38 +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > 
> > > I don't think we need to hide the fact that some platforms have
> > > specific alignment restrictions for DMA. So if any drivers make use
> > > of the alignment, I see no problem with __dma_aligned.
> > 
> > IIRC, such was proposed several times:
> > 
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org/msg12633.html
> > 
> > I guess that we agreed that it's better to tell driver writers to just
> > use kmalloc. 
> 
> Perhaps -- but only a few days ago in this thread, they were being
> advised to use ____cacheline_aligned instead!

Hmm, driver writers should read DMA-API and DMA-API-HOWTO docs.


> And for this case it really does seem to make sense to keep the buffer
> in the parent structure rather than allocating it separately. The DMA
> buffers are tiny and on cache-coherent architectures it's _much_ more
> efficient just to have them in the original structure and use
> __dma_aligned.

Yeah, I think that that's a valid point (which was also discussed in
the past). However, I tend to agree on:

http://lwn.net/Articles/2270/

I think that forcing kmalloc is not that bad. Surely more code, but
the performance is not notable in most cases. IMHO, exporting cache
line thing everywhere is worse than it.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-20  4:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-06 10:37 [PATCH] ad7877: fix spi word size to 16 bit Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-06 10:37 ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-06 10:37 ` [PATCH] ad7877: keep dma rx buffers in seperate cache lines Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-06 18:46   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-06 18:46     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-07 10:15     ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-07 10:15       ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-07 18:28       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-07 18:28         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-08 22:32         ` Johannes Weiner
2010-05-08 22:32           ` Johannes Weiner
2010-05-09  4:45           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-09  4:45             ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-09  8:50             ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-09  8:50               ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-07 12:07     ` Johannes Weiner
2010-05-10 10:34   ` [PATCH v2] " Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-10 10:34     ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-10 10:42     ` [PATCH v3] " Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-10 10:42       ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-10 16:39       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-10 20:54         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-10 21:22       ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-10 21:27         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11  6:05         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-11  6:05           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-11  6:11           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11  6:11             ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11  3:20             ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-11  6:21             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-11  6:23               ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11  6:23                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11  6:33                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-11  6:33                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-11  6:37                   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11  6:42                   ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-11 13:57                     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-11 16:52                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-11 17:31                       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 18:59                       ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-11 20:03                     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 20:07                       ` Matt Mackall
2010-05-11 20:10                         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 20:10                           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 20:21                           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-11 20:34                             ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 20:38                               ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-11 20:43                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 20:43                                   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 20:47                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-13  6:21                                     ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-11 20:46                               ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-11 20:54                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 20:54                                   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 21:01                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-11 21:11                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 21:11                                       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12  1:58                                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
     [not found]                                   ` <20100511214836.GH1726@emlix.com>
2010-05-11 21:53                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-11 22:39                                       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 22:39                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12  2:07                                         ` [LKML] " Marc Gauthier
2010-05-12  3:03                                           ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-12  3:23                                             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-12  4:35                                               ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12  4:35                                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12  5:28                                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-12  5:28                                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-12 14:37                                                   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12 14:37                                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12 18:11                                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-12 18:28                                                       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12 18:28                                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12 10:36                                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-05-12 12:35                                                 ` Marc Gauthier
2010-05-12 14:36                                                   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12 14:36                                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-19 12:48                                             ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 13:07                                               ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-19 13:17                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 13:36                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-19 13:44                                                     ` Johannes Weiner
2010-05-19 13:52                                                       ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-19 14:38                                                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-19 14:58                                                           ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-20  4:42                                                             ` FUJITA Tomonori [this message]
2010-05-19 16:37                                                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-19 15:00                                                         ` Johannes Weiner
2010-05-17  6:12                                         ` Michal Simek
2010-05-19 13:00                                   ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-11 22:37                               ` Alan Cox
2010-05-11 20:22                           ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-11 14:12           ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-11 14:12             ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-06 11:18 ` [PATCH] ad7877: fix spi word size to 16 bit Hennerich, Michael
2010-05-06 11:18   ` Hennerich, Michael
2010-05-06 18:26 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-06 18:26   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-07  9:41   ` Daniel Glöckner
2010-05-07  9:41     ` Daniel Glöckner
2010-05-07 18:23     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-07 18:23       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-13  7:53       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-13  7:53         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-15 18:15         ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-15 18:15           ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-16 19:25           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-16 19:25             ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-17  7:29             ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-17  7:29               ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-17  8:14               ` Hennerich, Michael
2010-05-17  8:14                 ` Hennerich, Michael
2010-05-17  8:41                 ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-17  8:41                   ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-17 23:49               ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-17 23:49                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-18  0:18                 ` H Hartley Sweeten
2010-05-18  0:18                   ` H Hartley Sweeten
2010-05-18  8:32                   ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-18  8:32                     ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-18  9:37                 ` Daniel Glöckner
2010-05-18  9:37                   ` Daniel Glöckner
2010-05-18  8:34 ` [PATCH v2] " Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-18  8:34   ` Oskar Schirmer

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