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From: H Hartley Sweeten <hartleys@visionengravers.com>
To: Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>, Oskar Schirmer <os@emlix.com>
Cc: "Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Glöckner" <dg@emlix.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Oliver Schneidewind" <osw@emlix.com>,
	"Michael Hennerich" <michael.hennerich@analog.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] ad7877: fix spi word size to 16 bit
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:18:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0D753D10438DA54287A00B0270842697636F0E1458@AUSP01VMBX24.collaborationhost.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimeAn9ALs4KxBNwwk-B419OwZ0BUwoKcoEfUbGw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Monday, May 17, 2010 4:50 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> 2010/5/17 Oskar Schirmer:
>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 15:25:34 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 14:15, Oskar Schirmer wrote:
>>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 00:53:35 -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 02:23:07PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 05:41, Daniel Glöckner wrote:
>>>>>>> On 05/06/2010 08:26 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>>>>>>> i think it'd be a better idea to do something like:
>>>>>>>>   if (spi->bits_per_word != 16) {
>>>>>>>>     if (spi->bits_per_word) {
>>>>>>>>       dev_err(&spi->dev, "Invalid SPI settings; bits_per_word must be 16\n");
>>>>>>>>       return -EINVAL;
>>>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>>>     spi->bits_per_word = 16;
>>>>>>>>     spi_setup(spi);
>>>>>>>>   }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no way to set bits_per_word using struct spi_board_info. The
>>>>>>> description of that structure in spi.h explicitly lists the wordsize as
>>>>>>> one of the parameters drivers should set themself in probe().
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Only struct bfin5xx_spi_chip allows to set this value in the board code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> an obvious shortcoming in the SPI framework that should be fixed, but
>>>>>> that doesnt make any difference to the above code now does it ?  it'll
>>>>>> operate correctly regardless of the SPI bus master.
>>>>>
>>>>> So is the updated patch coming?
>>>>
>>>> The basic question I see is, whether it is in the
>>>> responsibility of ad7877 to check a wrong setting
>>>> possibly caused in board specific code. If so,
>>>> then the proposal by Mike should be used, but if not
>>>> so, it would introduce unneeded code.
>>>>
>>>> Remember: both versions end up in correctly setting
>>>> bits_per_word, with the difference merely in feedback
>>>> level.
>>>
>>> imo, unsupported board settings should always be detected & rejected.
>>> all SPI master drivers do this (detect & reject unsupported SPI slave
>>> settings).
>>
>> please note, that bits_per_word is not a board setting,
>> it's a demand of the device. consequently, there is no one
>> to set unsupported values and thus none to be detected.
>>
>> the only architecture setting bits_per_word thru spi_chip
>> is blackfin, but I cannot see a good reason, why the board
>> settings should engage with a fixed demand of the device?
>
> you're telling me that every single SPI device out there can only ever
> operate in one specific bit length or lacks optional settings ?  i
> find that hard to believe which means it does make sense to let the
> boards pick a length when appropriate.
>
> the board settings also function as default setup values so when using
> generic things like the spidev driver, there is no kernel driver to
> request the desired bitmode.
>
> the simple code i posted addresses your concerns as well as reject
> invalid settings (wherever they may originate).  if you're not going
> to post an updated patch, i'll take the simple one Michael committed
> and post that.

Just my 0.02, I haven't been following this thread very closely...

I believe it's the spi "device", i.e. the protocol, drivers responsibility
to supply the bits_per_word that it will operate with.  The spi master
driver simply validates it if can support the requested size.  If the
bits_per_word is left at the default (0) it indicates that the protocol
words are eight bit bytes.

If a protocol driver can support multiple word sizes it should probably
also support a "setup" callback during the driver probe so that the
underlying board support can provide the desired word size.  This is what
the libertas_spi driver does (drivers/net/wireless/libertas/if_spi.c).
That driver does nothing with the bits_per_word value but the callbacks in
arch/arm/mach-pxa/cm-x270.c and em-x270.c do.  They both set the bits_per_word
to 16 and then call spi_setup.  They also probably should be checking the
return value of spi_setup to make sure that the requested mode is supported
by the master driver, but they probably don't since it is already known...

If the ad7877 "only" supports 16-bit word sizes it should be setting the
bits_per_word to indicate this.  If the underlying master driver does not
support that word size it will return an error when spi_setup is called.

Just my 0.02... 

Regards,
Hartley
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From: H Hartley Sweeten <hartleys@visionengravers.com>
To: Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>, Oskar Schirmer <os@emlix.com>
Cc: "Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Glöckner" <dg@emlix.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Oliver Schneidewind" <osw@emlix.com>,
	"Michael Hennerich" <michael.hennerich@analog.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] ad7877: fix spi word size to 16 bit
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:18:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0D753D10438DA54287A00B0270842697636F0E1458@AUSP01VMBX24.collaborationhost.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimeAn9ALs4KxBNwwk-B419OwZ0BUwoKcoEfUbGw@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday, May 17, 2010 4:50 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> 2010/5/17 Oskar Schirmer:
>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 15:25:34 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 14:15, Oskar Schirmer wrote:
>>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 00:53:35 -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 02:23:07PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 05:41, Daniel Glöckner wrote:
>>>>>>> On 05/06/2010 08:26 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>>>>>>> i think it'd be a better idea to do something like:
>>>>>>>>   if (spi->bits_per_word != 16) {
>>>>>>>>     if (spi->bits_per_word) {
>>>>>>>>       dev_err(&spi->dev, "Invalid SPI settings; bits_per_word must be 16\n");
>>>>>>>>       return -EINVAL;
>>>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>>>     spi->bits_per_word = 16;
>>>>>>>>     spi_setup(spi);
>>>>>>>>   }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no way to set bits_per_word using struct spi_board_info. The
>>>>>>> description of that structure in spi.h explicitly lists the wordsize as
>>>>>>> one of the parameters drivers should set themself in probe().
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Only struct bfin5xx_spi_chip allows to set this value in the board code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> an obvious shortcoming in the SPI framework that should be fixed, but
>>>>>> that doesnt make any difference to the above code now does it ?  it'll
>>>>>> operate correctly regardless of the SPI bus master.
>>>>>
>>>>> So is the updated patch coming?
>>>>
>>>> The basic question I see is, whether it is in the
>>>> responsibility of ad7877 to check a wrong setting
>>>> possibly caused in board specific code. If so,
>>>> then the proposal by Mike should be used, but if not
>>>> so, it would introduce unneeded code.
>>>>
>>>> Remember: both versions end up in correctly setting
>>>> bits_per_word, with the difference merely in feedback
>>>> level.
>>>
>>> imo, unsupported board settings should always be detected & rejected.
>>> all SPI master drivers do this (detect & reject unsupported SPI slave
>>> settings).
>>
>> please note, that bits_per_word is not a board setting,
>> it's a demand of the device. consequently, there is no one
>> to set unsupported values and thus none to be detected.
>>
>> the only architecture setting bits_per_word thru spi_chip
>> is blackfin, but I cannot see a good reason, why the board
>> settings should engage with a fixed demand of the device?
>
> you're telling me that every single SPI device out there can only ever
> operate in one specific bit length or lacks optional settings ?  i
> find that hard to believe which means it does make sense to let the
> boards pick a length when appropriate.
>
> the board settings also function as default setup values so when using
> generic things like the spidev driver, there is no kernel driver to
> request the desired bitmode.
>
> the simple code i posted addresses your concerns as well as reject
> invalid settings (wherever they may originate).  if you're not going
> to post an updated patch, i'll take the simple one Michael committed
> and post that.

Just my 0.02, I haven't been following this thread very closely...

I believe it's the spi "device", i.e. the protocol, drivers responsibility
to supply the bits_per_word that it will operate with.  The spi master
driver simply validates it if can support the requested size.  If the
bits_per_word is left at the default (0) it indicates that the protocol
words are eight bit bytes.

If a protocol driver can support multiple word sizes it should probably
also support a "setup" callback during the driver probe so that the
underlying board support can provide the desired word size.  This is what
the libertas_spi driver does (drivers/net/wireless/libertas/if_spi.c).
That driver does nothing with the bits_per_word value but the callbacks in
arch/arm/mach-pxa/cm-x270.c and em-x270.c do.  They both set the bits_per_word
to 16 and then call spi_setup.  They also probably should be checking the
return value of spi_setup to make sure that the requested mode is supported
by the master driver, but they probably don't since it is already known...

If the ad7877 "only" supports 16-bit word sizes it should be setting the
bits_per_word to indicate this.  If the underlying master driver does not
support that word size it will return an error when spi_setup is called.

Just my 0.02... 

Regards,
Hartley

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-18  0:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-06 10:37 [PATCH] ad7877: fix spi word size to 16 bit Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-06 10:37 ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-06 10:37 ` [PATCH] ad7877: keep dma rx buffers in seperate cache lines Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-06 18:46   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-06 18:46     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-07 10:15     ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-07 10:15       ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-07 18:28       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-07 18:28         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-08 22:32         ` Johannes Weiner
2010-05-08 22:32           ` Johannes Weiner
2010-05-09  4:45           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-09  4:45             ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-09  8:50             ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-09  8:50               ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-07 12:07     ` Johannes Weiner
2010-05-10 10:34   ` [PATCH v2] " Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-10 10:34     ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-10 10:42     ` [PATCH v3] " Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-10 10:42       ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-10 16:39       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-10 20:54         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-10 21:22       ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-10 21:27         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11  6:05         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-11  6:05           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-11  6:11           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11  6:11             ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11  3:20             ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-11  6:21             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-11  6:23               ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11  6:23                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11  6:33                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-11  6:33                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-11  6:37                   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11  6:42                   ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-11 13:57                     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-11 16:52                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-11 17:31                       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 18:59                       ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-11 20:03                     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 20:07                       ` Matt Mackall
2010-05-11 20:10                         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 20:10                           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 20:21                           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-11 20:34                             ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 20:38                               ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-11 20:43                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 20:43                                   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 20:47                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-13  6:21                                     ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-11 20:46                               ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-11 20:54                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 20:54                                   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 21:01                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-11 21:11                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 21:11                                       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12  1:58                                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
     [not found]                                   ` <20100511214836.GH1726@emlix.com>
2010-05-11 21:53                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-11 22:39                                       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-11 22:39                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12  2:07                                         ` [LKML] " Marc Gauthier
2010-05-12  3:03                                           ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-12  3:23                                             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-12  4:35                                               ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12  4:35                                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12  5:28                                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-12  5:28                                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-12 14:37                                                   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12 14:37                                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12 18:11                                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-12 18:28                                                       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12 18:28                                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12 10:36                                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-05-12 12:35                                                 ` Marc Gauthier
2010-05-12 14:36                                                   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-12 14:36                                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-19 12:48                                             ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 13:07                                               ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-19 13:17                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 13:36                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-19 13:44                                                     ` Johannes Weiner
2010-05-19 13:52                                                       ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-19 14:38                                                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-19 14:58                                                           ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-20  4:42                                                             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-19 16:37                                                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-19 15:00                                                         ` Johannes Weiner
2010-05-17  6:12                                         ` Michal Simek
2010-05-19 13:00                                   ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-11 22:37                               ` Alan Cox
2010-05-11 20:22                           ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-11 14:12           ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-11 14:12             ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-06 11:18 ` [PATCH] ad7877: fix spi word size to 16 bit Hennerich, Michael
2010-05-06 11:18   ` Hennerich, Michael
2010-05-06 18:26 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-06 18:26   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-07  9:41   ` Daniel Glöckner
2010-05-07  9:41     ` Daniel Glöckner
2010-05-07 18:23     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-07 18:23       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-13  7:53       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-13  7:53         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-05-15 18:15         ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-15 18:15           ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-16 19:25           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-16 19:25             ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-17  7:29             ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-17  7:29               ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-17  8:14               ` Hennerich, Michael
2010-05-17  8:14                 ` Hennerich, Michael
2010-05-17  8:41                 ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-17  8:41                   ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-17 23:49               ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-17 23:49                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-05-18  0:18                 ` H Hartley Sweeten [this message]
2010-05-18  0:18                   ` H Hartley Sweeten
2010-05-18  8:32                   ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-18  8:32                     ` Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-18  9:37                 ` Daniel Glöckner
2010-05-18  9:37                   ` Daniel Glöckner
2010-05-18  8:34 ` [PATCH v2] " Oskar Schirmer
2010-05-18  8:34   ` Oskar Schirmer

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