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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Anssi Hannula <anssi.hannula@iki.fi>
Cc: Fabio Estevam <fabio.estevam@freescale.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Yakir Yang <ykk@rock-chips.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 12/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi-ahb-audio: add audio driver
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 18:53:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150509175327.GU2067@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150509174054.GT2067@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 06:40:54PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> Even VLC _doesn't_ if it's outputting to a standard audio - in other
> words, if you don't tick the SPDIF direct output option which defaults
> to disabled (which, when enabled, opens the device passing the AES
> bits _and_ permits it to send a compressed audio stream.)  I've looked
> at this in VLC many times...

FYI, here's the code:

    vlc_fourcc_t fourcc = aout->format.i_format;
    bool spdif = false;
    switch (fourcc)
    {
... other linear float/integer codec IDs ...
        case VLC_CODEC_U16B:
            pcm_format = SND_PCM_FORMAT_U16_BE;
            break;
        case VLC_CODEC_U16L:
            pcm_format = SND_PCM_FORMAT_U16_LE;
            break;
...
        default:
            if (AOUT_FMT_SPDIF(&aout->format))
                spdif = var_InheritBool (aout, "spdif");
            if (spdif)
            {
                fourcc = VLC_CODEC_SPDIFL;
                pcm_format = SND_PCM_FORMAT_S16;
            }
            else
            if (HAVE_FPU)
            {
                fourcc = VLC_CODEC_FL32;
                pcm_format = SND_PCM_FORMAT_FLOAT;
            }
            else
            {
                fourcc = VLC_CODEC_S16N;
                pcm_format = SND_PCM_FORMAT_S16;
            }
    }

    /* Choose the IEC device for S/PDIF output:
       if the device is overridden by the user then it will be the one.
       Otherwise we compute the default device based on the output format. */
    if (spdif && !strcmp (device, "default"))
    {
        unsigned aes3;

        switch (aout->format.i_rate)
        {
#define FS(freq) \
            case freq: aes3 = IEC958_AES3_CON_FS_ ## freq; break;
            FS( 44100) /* def. */ FS( 48000) FS( 32000)
            FS( 22050)            FS( 24000)
            FS( 88200) FS(768000) FS( 96000)
            FS(176400)            FS(192000)
#undef FS
            default:
                aes3 = IEC958_AES3_CON_FS_NOTID;
                break;
        }

        free (device);
        if (asprintf (&device,
                      "iec958:AES0=0x%x,AES1=0x%x,AES2=0x%x,AES3=0x%x",
                      IEC958_AES0_CON_EMPHASIS_NONE | IEC958_AES0_NONAUDIO,
                      IEC958_AES1_CON_ORIGINAL | IEC958_AES1_CON_PCM_CODER,
                      0, aes3) == -1)
            return VLC_ENOMEM;
    }
...
    /* VLC always has a resampler. No need for ALSA's. */
    const int mode = SND_PCM_NO_AUTO_RESAMPLE;

    int val = snd_pcm_open (&pcm, device, SND_PCM_STREAM_PLAYBACK, mode);

So, the result is:

* VLC opens the ALSA device _without_ AES information if the fourcc
  being passed if the format is a linear PCM type.

* If the format is not a linear PCM type _and_ it is a format which
  satisfies AOUT_FMT_SPDIF(), _and_ the SPDIF passthrough option is
  enabled, _then_ we open the IEC958 audio output device with the
  first four AES data bytes specified with SND_PCM_FORMAT_S16.
  Moreover, the first data byte always indicates that the stream is
  non-audio.

So, in the case of linear PCM, the AES data bytes are *not* specified
by VLC.

So, if we don't have the kernel driver specifying the IEC958 information
for HDMI/SPDIF outputs, and users of ALSA's userspace APIs don't generate
them for linear PCM, how are the required AES data bytes generated?

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From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 12/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi-ahb-audio: add audio driver
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 18:53:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150509175327.GU2067@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150509174054.GT2067@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 06:40:54PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> Even VLC _doesn't_ if it's outputting to a standard audio - in other
> words, if you don't tick the SPDIF direct output option which defaults
> to disabled (which, when enabled, opens the device passing the AES
> bits _and_ permits it to send a compressed audio stream.)  I've looked
> at this in VLC many times...

FYI, here's the code:

    vlc_fourcc_t fourcc = aout->format.i_format;
    bool spdif = false;
    switch (fourcc)
    {
... other linear float/integer codec IDs ...
        case VLC_CODEC_U16B:
            pcm_format = SND_PCM_FORMAT_U16_BE;
            break;
        case VLC_CODEC_U16L:
            pcm_format = SND_PCM_FORMAT_U16_LE;
            break;
...
        default:
            if (AOUT_FMT_SPDIF(&aout->format))
                spdif = var_InheritBool (aout, "spdif");
            if (spdif)
            {
                fourcc = VLC_CODEC_SPDIFL;
                pcm_format = SND_PCM_FORMAT_S16;
            }
            else
            if (HAVE_FPU)
            {
                fourcc = VLC_CODEC_FL32;
                pcm_format = SND_PCM_FORMAT_FLOAT;
            }
            else
            {
                fourcc = VLC_CODEC_S16N;
                pcm_format = SND_PCM_FORMAT_S16;
            }
    }

    /* Choose the IEC device for S/PDIF output:
       if the device is overridden by the user then it will be the one.
       Otherwise we compute the default device based on the output format. */
    if (spdif && !strcmp (device, "default"))
    {
        unsigned aes3;

        switch (aout->format.i_rate)
        {
#define FS(freq) \
            case freq: aes3 = IEC958_AES3_CON_FS_ ## freq; break;
            FS( 44100) /* def. */ FS( 48000) FS( 32000)
            FS( 22050)            FS( 24000)
            FS( 88200) FS(768000) FS( 96000)
            FS(176400)            FS(192000)
#undef FS
            default:
                aes3 = IEC958_AES3_CON_FS_NOTID;
                break;
        }

        free (device);
        if (asprintf (&device,
                      "iec958:AES0=0x%x,AES1=0x%x,AES2=0x%x,AES3=0x%x",
                      IEC958_AES0_CON_EMPHASIS_NONE | IEC958_AES0_NONAUDIO,
                      IEC958_AES1_CON_ORIGINAL | IEC958_AES1_CON_PCM_CODER,
                      0, aes3) == -1)
            return VLC_ENOMEM;
    }
...
    /* VLC always has a resampler. No need for ALSA's. */
    const int mode = SND_PCM_NO_AUTO_RESAMPLE;

    int val = snd_pcm_open (&pcm, device, SND_PCM_STREAM_PLAYBACK, mode);

So, the result is:

* VLC opens the ALSA device _without_ AES information if the fourcc
  being passed if the format is a linear PCM type.

* If the format is not a linear PCM type _and_ it is a format which
  satisfies AOUT_FMT_SPDIF(), _and_ the SPDIF passthrough option is
  enabled, _then_ we open the IEC958 audio output device with the
  first four AES data bytes specified with SND_PCM_FORMAT_S16.
  Moreover, the first data byte always indicates that the stream is
  non-audio.

So, in the case of linear PCM, the AES data bytes are *not* specified
by VLC.

So, if we don't have the kernel driver specifying the IEC958 information
for HDMI/SPDIF outputs, and users of ALSA's userspace APIs don't generate
them for linear PCM, how are the required AES data bytes generated?

-- 
FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line: currently at 10.5Mbps down 400kbps up
according to speedtest.net.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-09 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-02  9:20 [RFC v2 0/13] dw_hdmi cleanups, audio preparation, helpers and ahb audio support Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-04-02  9:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-04-02  9:21 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/13] drm: imx/dw_hdmi: move phy comments Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21   ` Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi: clean up phy configuration Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21   ` Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi: clean up hdmi_set_clk_regenerator() Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21   ` Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi: use drm_hdmi_avi_infoframe_from_display_mode() Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21   ` Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi: simplify hdmi_config_AVI() a little Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21   ` Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi: remove mhsyncpolarity/mvsyncpolarity/minterlaced Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21   ` Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi: introduce interface to setting sample rate Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21   ` Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi: introduce interfaces to enable and disable audio Russell King
2015-04-02  9:21   ` Russell King
2015-04-02  9:22 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/13] drm/edid: add function to help find SADs Russell King
2015-04-02  9:22   ` Russell King
2015-04-02  9:22 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/13] sound/core: add DRM ELD helper Russell King
2015-04-02  9:22   ` Russell King
2015-04-05 15:57   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-04-05 15:57     ` Takashi Iwai
2015-04-05 16:20     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-04-05 16:20       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-04-05 16:46       ` Takashi Iwai
2015-04-05 16:46         ` Takashi Iwai
2015-04-05 17:26         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-04-05 17:26           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-06 17:02           ` Anssi Hannula
2015-05-06 17:02             ` Anssi Hannula
2015-05-07 10:41             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-07 10:41               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-07 11:11               ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-05-07 11:11                 ` [alsa-devel] " Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-05-08 10:56           ` Jyri Sarha
2015-05-08 10:56             ` Jyri Sarha
2015-05-08 11:42             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-08 11:42               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-05 22:35     ` Mark Brown
2015-05-05 22:35       ` Mark Brown
2015-05-06  8:58       ` Liam Girdwood
2015-05-06  8:58         ` [alsa-devel] " Liam Girdwood
2015-05-08 13:16   ` Jyri Sarha
2015-05-08 13:16     ` Jyri Sarha
2015-05-08 13:27     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-08 13:27       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-08 13:37       ` Jyri Sarha
2015-05-08 13:37         ` [alsa-devel] " Jyri Sarha
2015-04-02  9:22 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/13] sound/core: add IEC958 channel status helper Russell King
2015-04-02  9:22   ` Russell King
2015-04-02  9:22 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi-ahb-audio: add audio driver Russell King
2015-04-02  9:22   ` Russell King
2015-04-02  9:22 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi-ahb-audio: parse ELD from HDMI driver Russell King
2015-04-02  9:22   ` Russell King
2015-05-09 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 0/13] dw_hdmi cleanups, audio preparation, helpers and ahb audio support Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-09 10:25   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-09 10:25   ` [PATCH 01/13] drm: imx/dw_hdmi: move phy comments Russell King
2015-05-09 10:25     ` Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26   ` [PATCH 02/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi: clean up phy configuration Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26     ` Russell King
2015-05-22 15:19     ` Yakir
2015-05-22 15:19       ` Yakir
2015-05-09 10:26   ` [PATCH 03/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi: clean up hdmi_set_clk_regenerator() Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26     ` Russell King
2015-05-22 15:22     ` Yakir
2015-05-22 15:22       ` Yakir
2015-05-09 10:26   ` [PATCH 04/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi: use drm_hdmi_avi_infoframe_from_display_mode() Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26     ` Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26   ` [PATCH 05/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi: simplify hdmi_config_AVI() a little Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26     ` Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26   ` [PATCH 06/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi: remove mhsyncpolarity/mvsyncpolarity/minterlaced Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26     ` Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26   ` [PATCH 07/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi: introduce interface to setting sample rate Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26     ` Russell King
2015-05-22 15:26     ` Yakir
2015-05-22 15:26       ` Yakir
2015-05-09 10:26   ` [PATCH 08/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi: introduce interfaces to enable and disable audio Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26     ` Russell King
2015-05-22 15:28     ` Yakir
2015-05-22 15:28       ` Yakir
2015-05-09 10:26   ` [PATCH 09/13] drm/edid: add function to help find SADs Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26     ` Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26   ` [PATCH 10/13] sound/core: add DRM ELD helper Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26     ` Russell King
2015-05-22 12:20     ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2015-05-22 12:20       ` Mark Brown
2015-05-22 13:15       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-22 13:15         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-22 13:30         ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-22 13:30           ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-22 13:53           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-22 13:53             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-22 13:54             ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-22 13:54               ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-22 14:00               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-22 14:00                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-22 14:02                 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-22 14:02                   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-22 14:05                   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-22 14:05                     ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-22 16:12                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-22 16:12                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-09 10:26   ` [PATCH 11/13] sound/core: add IEC958 channel status helper Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26     ` Russell King
2015-05-22 12:40     ` Mark Brown
2015-05-22 12:40       ` Mark Brown
2015-05-09 10:26   ` [PATCH 12/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi-ahb-audio: add audio driver Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26     ` Russell King
2015-05-09 16:49     ` [alsa-devel] " Anssi Hannula
2015-05-09 16:49       ` Anssi Hannula
2015-05-09 16:55       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-09 16:55         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-09 17:07         ` Anssi Hannula
2015-05-09 17:07           ` Anssi Hannula
2015-05-09 17:40           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-09 17:40             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-09 17:53             ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2015-05-09 17:53               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-09 17:55             ` Anssi Hannula
2015-05-09 17:55               ` Anssi Hannula
2015-05-09 18:11               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-09 18:11                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-10 18:59                 ` Anssi Hannula
2015-05-10 18:59                   ` Anssi Hannula
2015-05-10 19:33                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-10 19:33                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-10 20:47                     ` Anssi Hannula
2015-05-10 20:47                       ` Anssi Hannula
2015-05-11 15:58                     ` Mark Brown
2015-05-11 15:58                       ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2015-05-09 10:26   ` [PATCH 13/13] drm: bridge/dw_hdmi-ahb-audio: parse ELD from HDMI driver Russell King
2015-05-09 10:26     ` Russell King
2015-05-27 10:43     ` Daniel Vetter
2015-05-27 10:43       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-05-27 11:43       ` Mark Brown
2015-05-27 11:43         ` Mark Brown
2015-05-27 17:31       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-27 17:31         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-27 21:29         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-05-27 21:29           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-05-27 21:44           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-27 21:44             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-28  6:43             ` Daniel Vetter
2015-05-28  6:43               ` Daniel Vetter
2015-05-28  4:56         ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2015-05-28  4:56           ` Takashi Iwai

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