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From: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	James Clark <james.clark@arm.com>,
	German Gomez <german.gomez@arm.com>,
	Ali Saidi <alisaidi@amazon.com>, Joe Mario <jmario@redhat.com>,
	Adam Li <adam.li@amperecomputing.com>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/17] perf c2c: Support data source and display for Arm64
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 23:20:10 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220812152010.GA74978@leoy-huanghe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YvZK20NEoIQATSH/@kernel.org>

On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 09:43:07AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:

[...]

> > One question: should I later continue to upstream the first patch for
> > syncing the kernel header perf_event.h after Peter.Z comes back?
> 
> yes, and we may have to backtrack and find some other way to implement
> this if he is opposed, as he in the past didn't like
> perf_event_attr.type namespace being used by userspace only records such
> as PERF_RECORD_FINISHED_ROUND, PERF_RECORD_COMPRESSED, etc.
> 
> In this case its different, I think its ok as we already have
> PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_FWD and PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_PEER probably will be emitted by
> the some of the architectures, from the kernel, right?

Yes, as I know x86 generates memory samples from kernel, and SNOOPX_PEER
can be a useful snooping flag for other archs.

As a last resort if SNOOPX_PEER is rejected, we can rollback to use
existed flag (like reusing PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_FWD), though this would be
ambiguous for expressing the memory operations on Arm64.

Thanks,
Leo

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	James Clark <james.clark@arm.com>,
	German Gomez <german.gomez@arm.com>,
	Ali Saidi <alisaidi@amazon.com>, Joe Mario <jmario@redhat.com>,
	Adam Li <adam.li@amperecomputing.com>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/17] perf c2c: Support data source and display for Arm64
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 23:20:10 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220812152010.GA74978@leoy-huanghe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YvZK20NEoIQATSH/@kernel.org>

On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 09:43:07AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:

[...]

> > One question: should I later continue to upstream the first patch for
> > syncing the kernel header perf_event.h after Peter.Z comes back?
> 
> yes, and we may have to backtrack and find some other way to implement
> this if he is opposed, as he in the past didn't like
> perf_event_attr.type namespace being used by userspace only records such
> as PERF_RECORD_FINISHED_ROUND, PERF_RECORD_COMPRESSED, etc.
> 
> In this case its different, I think its ok as we already have
> PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_FWD and PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_PEER probably will be emitted by
> the some of the architectures, from the kernel, right?

Yes, as I know x86 generates memory samples from kernel, and SNOOPX_PEER
can be a useful snooping flag for other archs.

As a last resort if SNOOPX_PEER is rejected, we can rollback to use
existed flag (like reusing PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_FWD), though this would be
ambiguous for expressing the memory operations on Arm64.

Thanks,
Leo

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-12 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-04  4:28 [PATCH v5 00/17] perf c2c: Support data source and display for Arm64 Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 01/17] perf: Add SNOOP_PEER flag to perf mem data struct Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-07-20 18:45   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2022-07-20 18:45     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2022-07-20 18:46     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2022-07-20 18:46       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2022-07-21  0:27       ` Leo Yan
2022-07-21  0:27         ` Leo Yan
2022-08-08 16:40         ` ping " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 02/17] perf tools: sync addition of PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_PEER Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 03/17] perf mem: Print snoop peer flag Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 04/17] perf arm-spe: Don't set data source if it's not a memory operation Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 05/17] perf arm-spe: Use SPE data source for neoverse cores Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 06/17] perf mem: Add statistics for peer snooping Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 07/17] perf c2c: Output " Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 08/17] perf c2c: Add dimensions for peer load operations Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 09/17] perf c2c: Add dimensions of peer metrics for cache line view Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 10/17] perf c2c: Add mean dimensions for peer operations Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 11/17] perf c2c: Use explicit names for display macros Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 12/17] perf c2c: Rename dimension from 'percent_hitm' to 'percent_costly_snoop' Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 13/17] perf c2c: Refactor node header Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 14/17] perf c2c: Refactor display string Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 15/17] perf c2c: Sort on peer snooping for load operations Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 16/17] perf c2c: Use 'peer' as default display for Arm64 Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 17/17] perf c2c: Update documentation for new display option 'peer' Leo Yan
2022-06-04  4:28   ` Leo Yan
2022-08-10 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 00/17] perf c2c: Support data source and display for Arm64 Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2022-08-10 13:37   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2022-08-11  6:41   ` Leo Yan
2022-08-11  6:41     ` Leo Yan
2022-08-12 12:43     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2022-08-12 12:43       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2022-08-12 15:20       ` Leo Yan [this message]
2022-08-12 15:20         ` Leo Yan

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