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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, x86@kernel.org
Cc: iommu <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/13] irqdomain: Add max_affinity argument to irq_domain_alloc_descs()
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2020 12:10:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2c0712352812ab114cb711236703fd7c308a5bf2.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k0w12h8u.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

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On Thu, 2020-10-08 at 11:34 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> The overall conclusion for this is:
> 
>  1) X2APIC support on bare metal w/o irq remapping is not going to
>     happen unless you:
> 
>       - added support in multi-queue devices which utilize managed
>         interrupts
>         
>       - audited the whole tree for other assumptions related to the
>         reachability of possible CPUs.
> 
>     I'm not expecting you to be done with that before I retire so for
>     me it's just not going to happen :)

Makes sense. It probably does mean we should a BUG_ON for the case
where IRQ remapping *is* enabled but any device is found which isn't
behind it. But that's OK.

>  2) X2APIC support on VIRT is possible if the extended ID magic is
>     supported by the hypervisor because that does not make any CPU
>     unreachable for MSI and therefore the multi-queue muck and
>     everything else just works.
> 
>     This requires to have either the domain affinity limitation for HPET
>     in place or just to force disable HPET or at least HPET-MSI which is
>     a reasonable tradeoff.
> 
>     HPET is not required for guests which have kvmclock and
>     APIC/deadline timer and known (hypervisor provided) frequencies.

HPET-MSI should work fine. Like the IOAPIC, it's just a child of the
*actual* MSI domain. The address/data in the MSI message are completely
opaque to it, and if the parent domain happens to put meaningful
information into bits 11-5 of the MSI address, the HPET won't even
notice.

The HPET's Tn_FSB_INT_ADDR register does have a full 32 bits of the MSI
address; it's not doing bit-swizzling like the IOAPIC does, which might
potentially *not* have been able to set certain bits in the MSI.

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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, x86@kernel.org
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	iommu <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/13] irqdomain: Add max_affinity argument to irq_domain_alloc_descs()
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2020 12:10:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2c0712352812ab114cb711236703fd7c308a5bf2.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k0w12h8u.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>


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On Thu, 2020-10-08 at 11:34 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> The overall conclusion for this is:
> 
>  1) X2APIC support on bare metal w/o irq remapping is not going to
>     happen unless you:
> 
>       - added support in multi-queue devices which utilize managed
>         interrupts
>         
>       - audited the whole tree for other assumptions related to the
>         reachability of possible CPUs.
> 
>     I'm not expecting you to be done with that before I retire so for
>     me it's just not going to happen :)

Makes sense. It probably does mean we should a BUG_ON for the case
where IRQ remapping *is* enabled but any device is found which isn't
behind it. But that's OK.

>  2) X2APIC support on VIRT is possible if the extended ID magic is
>     supported by the hypervisor because that does not make any CPU
>     unreachable for MSI and therefore the multi-queue muck and
>     everything else just works.
> 
>     This requires to have either the domain affinity limitation for HPET
>     in place or just to force disable HPET or at least HPET-MSI which is
>     a reasonable tradeoff.
> 
>     HPET is not required for guests which have kvmclock and
>     APIC/deadline timer and known (hypervisor provided) frequencies.

HPET-MSI should work fine. Like the IOAPIC, it's just a child of the
*actual* MSI domain. The address/data in the MSI message are completely
opaque to it, and if the parent domain happens to put meaningful
information into bits 11-5 of the MSI address, the HPET won't even
notice.

The HPET's Tn_FSB_INT_ADDR register does have a full 32 bits of the MSI
address; it's not doing bit-swizzling like the IOAPIC does, which might
potentially *not* have been able to set certain bits in the MSI.

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Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-05 15:28 [PATCH 0/13] Fix per-domain IRQ affinity, allow >255 CPUs on x86 without IRQ remapping David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28 ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28 ` [PATCH 01/13] x86/apic: Use x2apic in guest kernels even with unusable CPUs David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28   ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28   ` [PATCH 02/13] x86/msi: Only use high bits of MSI address for DMAR unit David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-06 20:45     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-06 20:45       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-05 15:28   ` [PATCH 03/13] x86/ioapic: Handle Extended Destination ID field in RTE David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28   ` [PATCH 04/13] x86/apic: Support 15 bits of APIC ID in IOAPIC/MSI where available David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28   ` [PATCH 05/13] genirq: Prepare for default affinity to be passed to __irq_alloc_descs() David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-06 21:01     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-06 21:01       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-06 21:07       ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-06 21:07         ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28   ` [PATCH 06/13] genirq: Add default_affinity argument " David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-06 21:06     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-06 21:06       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-05 15:28   ` [PATCH 07/13] irqdomain: Add max_affinity argument to irq_domain_alloc_descs() David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-06 21:26     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-06 21:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07  7:19       ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07  7:19         ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 13:37         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 13:37           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 14:10           ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 14:10             ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 15:57             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 15:57               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 16:11               ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 16:11                 ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 20:53                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 20:53                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-08  7:21               ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-08  7:21                 ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-08  9:34                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-08  9:34                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-08 11:10                   ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2020-10-08 11:10                     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-08 12:40                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-08 12:40                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-09  7:54                       ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-09  7:54                         ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28   ` [PATCH 08/13] genirq: Add irq_domain_set_affinity() David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-06 21:32     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-06 21:32       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07  7:22       ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07  7:22         ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28   ` [PATCH 09/13] x86/irq: Add x86_non_ir_cpumask David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-06 21:42     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-06 21:42       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07  7:25       ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07  7:25         ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28   ` [PATCH 10/13] x86/irq: Limit IOAPIC and MSI domains' affinity without IR David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-06 21:54     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-06 21:54       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07  7:48       ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07  7:48         ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 12:59         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 12:59           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 13:08           ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 13:08             ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 14:05             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 14:05               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 14:23               ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 14:23                 ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 16:02                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 16:02                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 16:15                   ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 16:15                     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 15:05               ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 15:05                 ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 15:25                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 15:25                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 15:46                   ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 15:46                     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 17:23                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 17:23                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 17:34                       ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 17:34                         ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28   ` [PATCH 11/13] x86/smp: Allow more than 255 CPUs even without interrupt remapping David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28   ` [PATCH 12/13] iommu/irq_remapping: Kill most of hyperv-iommu.c now it's redundant David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28   ` [PATCH 13/13] x86/kvm: Add KVM_FEATURE_MSI_EXT_DEST_ID David Woodhouse
2020-10-05 15:28     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07  8:14     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-10-07  8:14       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-10-07  8:59       ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07  8:59         ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 11:15         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-10-07 11:15           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-10-07 12:04           ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-07 12:04             ` David Woodhouse

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