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From: "Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>
To: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>
Cc: eben@raspberrypi.org, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>,
	Sean Paul <seanpaul@chromium.org>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/6] drm/modes: Allow to specify rotation and reflection on the commandline
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 16:12:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4169c6d9-5a64-8d05-9496-263cd9eda485@tronnes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190613125024.46yiiy6zrrqojajy@flea>



Den 13.06.2019 14.50, skrev Maxime Ripard:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 03:21:19PM +0200, Noralf Trønnes wrote:
>>>> The only way I see for that to happen, is to set
>>>> ->panel_orientation. And to repeat myself, imo that makes
>>>> 'orientation' a better name for this video= option.
>>>
>>> orientation and rotation are two different things to me. The
>>> orientation of a panel for example is absolute, while the rotation is
>>> a transformation. In this particular case, I think that both the
>>> orientation and the rotation should be taken into account, with the
>>> orientation being the default state, and the hardware / panel will
>>> tell us that, while the rotation would be a transformation from that
>>> default to whatever the user wants.
>>>
>>> More importantly, the orientation is a property of the hardware (ie,
>>> how the display has been assembled), while the rotation is a software
>>> construct.
>>>
>>> And if the property being used to expose that is the rotation, I guess
>>> it would make sense to just use the same name and remain consistent.
>>
>> Ok, I see. Based on this, I would assume that rotation would be relative
>> to the orientation, but I see that in this patch rotation doesn't take
>> orintation into account, it just overwrites it.
> 
> Yeah, that's a good point. I've updated the next version to add the
> rotation on the command line to the orientation.
> 
>> I don't how userspace deals with rotation on top of orientation.
> 
> The orientation is exposed through the property, and the result is
> available through the plane's rotation, so I guess that it's enough?
> 

I was just wondering if Xserver/wayland applied rotation on top of
orientation or not. Maybe it would make sense to treat internal drm
clients the same. I understand that the DRM rotation property doesn't
apply on top orientation, just wondering how mutter/wayland (whoever is
in charge) does this. Not important to me, so feel free to disregard,
I'm just wondering.

Noralf.

> Maxime
> 
> --
> Maxime Ripard, Bootlin
> Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
> https://bootlin.com
> 

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From: "Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>
To: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>
Cc: eben@raspberrypi.org, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>,
	Sean Paul <seanpaul@chromium.org>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/6] drm/modes: Allow to specify rotation and reflection on the commandline
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 16:12:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4169c6d9-5a64-8d05-9496-263cd9eda485@tronnes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190613125024.46yiiy6zrrqojajy@flea>



Den 13.06.2019 14.50, skrev Maxime Ripard:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 03:21:19PM +0200, Noralf Trønnes wrote:
>>>> The only way I see for that to happen, is to set
>>>> ->panel_orientation. And to repeat myself, imo that makes
>>>> 'orientation' a better name for this video= option.
>>>
>>> orientation and rotation are two different things to me. The
>>> orientation of a panel for example is absolute, while the rotation is
>>> a transformation. In this particular case, I think that both the
>>> orientation and the rotation should be taken into account, with the
>>> orientation being the default state, and the hardware / panel will
>>> tell us that, while the rotation would be a transformation from that
>>> default to whatever the user wants.
>>>
>>> More importantly, the orientation is a property of the hardware (ie,
>>> how the display has been assembled), while the rotation is a software
>>> construct.
>>>
>>> And if the property being used to expose that is the rotation, I guess
>>> it would make sense to just use the same name and remain consistent.
>>
>> Ok, I see. Based on this, I would assume that rotation would be relative
>> to the orientation, but I see that in this patch rotation doesn't take
>> orintation into account, it just overwrites it.
> 
> Yeah, that's a good point. I've updated the next version to add the
> rotation on the command line to the orientation.
> 
>> I don't how userspace deals with rotation on top of orientation.
> 
> The orientation is exposed through the property, and the result is
> available through the plane's rotation, so I guess that it's enough?
> 

I was just wondering if Xserver/wayland applied rotation on top of
orientation or not. Maybe it would make sense to treat internal drm
clients the same. I understand that the DRM rotation property doesn't
apply on top orientation, just wondering how mutter/wayland (whoever is
in charge) does this. Not important to me, so feel free to disregard,
I'm just wondering.

Noralf.

> Maxime
> 
> --
> Maxime Ripard, Bootlin
> Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
> https://bootlin.com
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-13 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-18 12:41 [PATCH v3 0/6] drm/vc4: Allow for more boot-time configuration Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 12:41 ` Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] drm/modes: Rewrite the command line parser Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 12:41   ` Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 16:11   ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-18 16:11     ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-18 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] drm/modes: Support modes names on the command line Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 12:41   ` Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 16:22   ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-18 16:22     ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-18 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] drm/modes: Allow to specify rotation and reflection on the commandline Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 12:41   ` Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 16:40   ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-18 16:40     ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-19  8:53     ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-19  8:53       ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-06-11 13:20       ` Maxime Ripard
2019-06-11 13:20         ` Maxime Ripard
2019-06-12  8:11         ` Jani Nikula
2019-06-12  8:11           ` Jani Nikula
2019-06-12 13:21         ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-06-12 13:21           ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-06-13 12:50           ` Maxime Ripard
2019-06-13 12:50             ` Maxime Ripard
2019-06-13 14:12             ` Noralf Trønnes [this message]
2019-06-13 14:12               ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-06-11 12:49     ` Maxime Ripard
2019-06-11 12:49       ` Maxime Ripard
2019-06-12 12:43       ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-06-12 12:43         ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-06-12 15:54         ` Maxime Ripard
2019-06-12 15:54           ` Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] drm/modes: Parse overscan properties Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 12:41   ` Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 16:50   ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-18 16:50     ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-19  9:05     ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-19  9:05       ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-18 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] drm/selftests: Add command line parser selftests Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 12:41   ` Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 16:51   ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-18 16:51     ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-18 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] drm/vc4: hdmi: Set default state margin at reset Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 12:41   ` Maxime Ripard
2019-04-18 16:59   ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-19 18:50     ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-19 18:50       ` Noralf Trønnes

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