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From: Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@sandisk.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	"axboe@fb.com" <axboe@fb.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/13] irq: Introduce IRQD_AFFINITY_MANAGED flag
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:42:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <67ef7a1c-56e1-db2c-b038-f9784fc1f52f@sandisk.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160615102311.GA16619@lst.de>

On 06/15/2016 12:23 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> Hi Bart,
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:44:37AM +0200, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>> However, is excluding these interrupts from irqbalanced really the
>> way to go?
>
> What positive effect will irqbalanced have on explcititly spread
> interrupts?
>
>> Suppose e.g. that a system is equipped with two RDMA adapters,
>> that these adapters are used by a blk-mq enabled block initiator driver and
>> that each adapter supports eight MSI-X vectors. Should the interrupts of
>> the two RDMA adapters be assigned to different CPU cores? If so, which
>> software layer should realize this? The kernel or user space?
>
> RDMA should eventually use the interrupt spreading implemented in this
> series, as should networking (RDMA actually is on my near term todo list).
>
> RDMA block protocols will then pick up the queue information from the
> HCA driver.  I've not actually implemented this yet, but my current idea
> is:
>
>  - the HCA drivers are switch to use pci_alloc_irq_vectors to spread
>    their interrupt vectors around the system
>  - the HCA drivers will expose the irq_affinity affinity array
>    in struct ib_device (we'll need to consider what do about the
>    odd completion vectors instead of irq terminology in the RDMA stack,
>    but that's not a show stopper)
>  - multiqueue aware block drivers will then feed the irq_affinity
>    cpumask from the hca driver to blk-mq.  We'll also need to ensure
>    the number of protocol queues aligns nicely to the number of hardware
>    queues.  My current thinking is that they should be the same or
>    a fraction of the hardware completion queues, but this might need
>    some careful benchmarking.

Hello Christoph,

Today irqbalanced is responsible for deciding how to assign interrupts 
from different adapters to CPU cores. Does the above mean that for 
adapters that support multiple MSI-X interrupts the kernel will have 
full responsibility for assigning interrupt vectors to CPU cores?

If two identical adapters are present in a system, will these generate 
the same irq_affinity mask? Do you agree that interrupt vectors from 
different adapters should be assigned to different CPU cores if enough 
CPU cores are available? If so, which software layer will assign 
interrupt vectors from different adapters to different CPU cores?

Thanks,

Bart.

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From: Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@sandisk.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"axboe@fb.com" <axboe@fb.com>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/13] irq: Introduce IRQD_AFFINITY_MANAGED flag
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:42:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <67ef7a1c-56e1-db2c-b038-f9784fc1f52f@sandisk.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160615102311.GA16619@lst.de>

On 06/15/2016 12:23 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> Hi Bart,
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:44:37AM +0200, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>> However, is excluding these interrupts from irqbalanced really the
>> way to go?
>
> What positive effect will irqbalanced have on explcititly spread
> interrupts?
>
>> Suppose e.g. that a system is equipped with two RDMA adapters,
>> that these adapters are used by a blk-mq enabled block initiator driver and
>> that each adapter supports eight MSI-X vectors. Should the interrupts of
>> the two RDMA adapters be assigned to different CPU cores? If so, which
>> software layer should realize this? The kernel or user space?
>
> RDMA should eventually use the interrupt spreading implemented in this
> series, as should networking (RDMA actually is on my near term todo list).
>
> RDMA block protocols will then pick up the queue information from the
> HCA driver.  I've not actually implemented this yet, but my current idea
> is:
>
>  - the HCA drivers are switch to use pci_alloc_irq_vectors to spread
>    their interrupt vectors around the system
>  - the HCA drivers will expose the irq_affinity affinity array
>    in struct ib_device (we'll need to consider what do about the
>    odd completion vectors instead of irq terminology in the RDMA stack,
>    but that's not a show stopper)
>  - multiqueue aware block drivers will then feed the irq_affinity
>    cpumask from the hca driver to blk-mq.  We'll also need to ensure
>    the number of protocol queues aligns nicely to the number of hardware
>    queues.  My current thinking is that they should be the same or
>    a fraction of the hardware completion queues, but this might need
>    some careful benchmarking.

Hello Christoph,

Today irqbalanced is responsible for deciding how to assign interrupts 
from different adapters to CPU cores. Does the above mean that for 
adapters that support multiple MSI-X interrupts the kernel will have 
full responsibility for assigning interrupt vectors to CPU cores?

If two identical adapters are present in a system, will these generate 
the same irq_affinity mask? Do you agree that interrupt vectors from 
different adapters should be assigned to different CPU cores if enough 
CPU cores are available? If so, which software layer will assign 
interrupt vectors from different adapters to different CPU cores?

Thanks,

Bart.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: bart.vanassche@sandisk.com (Bart Van Assche)
Subject: [PATCH 02/13] irq: Introduce IRQD_AFFINITY_MANAGED flag
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:42:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <67ef7a1c-56e1-db2c-b038-f9784fc1f52f@sandisk.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160615102311.GA16619@lst.de>

On 06/15/2016 12:23 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> Hi Bart,
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016@10:44:37AM +0200, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>> However, is excluding these interrupts from irqbalanced really the
>> way to go?
>
> What positive effect will irqbalanced have on explcititly spread
> interrupts?
>
>> Suppose e.g. that a system is equipped with two RDMA adapters,
>> that these adapters are used by a blk-mq enabled block initiator driver and
>> that each adapter supports eight MSI-X vectors. Should the interrupts of
>> the two RDMA adapters be assigned to different CPU cores? If so, which
>> software layer should realize this? The kernel or user space?
>
> RDMA should eventually use the interrupt spreading implemented in this
> series, as should networking (RDMA actually is on my near term todo list).
>
> RDMA block protocols will then pick up the queue information from the
> HCA driver.  I've not actually implemented this yet, but my current idea
> is:
>
>  - the HCA drivers are switch to use pci_alloc_irq_vectors to spread
>    their interrupt vectors around the system
>  - the HCA drivers will expose the irq_affinity affinity array
>    in struct ib_device (we'll need to consider what do about the
>    odd completion vectors instead of irq terminology in the RDMA stack,
>    but that's not a show stopper)
>  - multiqueue aware block drivers will then feed the irq_affinity
>    cpumask from the hca driver to blk-mq.  We'll also need to ensure
>    the number of protocol queues aligns nicely to the number of hardware
>    queues.  My current thinking is that they should be the same or
>    a fraction of the hardware completion queues, but this might need
>    some careful benchmarking.

Hello Christoph,

Today irqbalanced is responsible for deciding how to assign interrupts 
from different adapters to CPU cores. Does the above mean that for 
adapters that support multiple MSI-X interrupts the kernel will have 
full responsibility for assigning interrupt vectors to CPU cores?

If two identical adapters are present in a system, will these generate 
the same irq_affinity mask? Do you agree that interrupt vectors from 
different adapters should be assigned to different CPU cores if enough 
CPU cores are available? If so, which software layer will assign 
interrupt vectors from different adapters to different CPU cores?

Thanks,

Bart.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-15 10:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-14 19:58 automatic interrupt affinity for MSI/MSI-X capable devices V2 Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58 ` [PATCH 01/13] irq/msi: Remove unused MSI_FLAG_IDENTITY_MAP Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-16  9:05   ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-16  9:05     ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-14 19:58 ` [PATCH 02/13] irq: Introduce IRQD_AFFINITY_MANAGED flag Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-15  8:44   ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-15  8:44     ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-15 10:23     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-15 10:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-15 10:42       ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2016-06-15 10:42         ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-15 10:42         ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-15 15:14         ` Keith Busch
2016-06-15 15:14           ` Keith Busch
2016-06-15 15:28           ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-15 15:28             ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-15 16:03             ` Keith Busch
2016-06-15 16:03               ` Keith Busch
2016-06-15 19:36               ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-15 19:36                 ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-15 20:06                 ` Keith Busch
2016-06-15 20:06                   ` Keith Busch
2016-06-15 20:12                   ` Keith Busch
2016-06-15 20:12                     ` Keith Busch
2016-06-15 20:50                     ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-15 20:50                       ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-16 15:19                       ` Keith Busch
2016-06-16 15:19                         ` Keith Busch
2016-06-22 11:56                         ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-06-22 11:56                           ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-06-22 11:56                           ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-06-16 15:20                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-16 15:20                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-16 15:39                   ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-16 15:39                     ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-20 12:22                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-20 12:22                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-20 12:22                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-20 13:21                       ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-20 13:21                         ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-20 13:21                         ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-21 14:31                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-21 14:31                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-21 14:31                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-16  9:08   ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-16  9:08     ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-14 19:58 ` [PATCH 03/13] irq: Add affinity hint to irq allocation Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58 ` [PATCH 04/13] irq: Use affinity hint in irqdesc allocation Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58 ` [PATCH 05/13] irq/msi: Make use of affinity aware allocations Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58 ` [PATCH 06/13] irq: add a helper spread an affinity mask for MSI/MSI-X vectors Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 21:54   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2016-06-14 21:54     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2016-06-15  8:35     ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-15  8:35       ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-15  8:35       ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-15 10:10     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-15 10:10       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-15 13:09       ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2016-06-15 13:09         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2016-06-16 15:16         ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-16 15:16           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-25 20:05   ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-06-25 20:05     ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-06-30 17:48     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-30 17:48       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-30 17:48       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-07-01  7:25       ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-07-01  7:25         ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-06-14 19:59 ` [PATCH 07/13] pci: Provide sensible irq vector alloc/free routines Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-23 11:16   ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-06-23 11:16     ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-06-30 16:54     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-30 16:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-30 17:28       ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-06-30 17:28         ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-06-30 17:35         ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-30 17:35           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59 ` [PATCH 08/13] pci: spread interrupt vectors in pci_alloc_irq_vectors Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-25 20:22   ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-06-25 20:22     ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-06-14 19:59 ` [PATCH 09/13] blk-mq: don't redistribute hardware queues on a CPU hotplug event Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59 ` [PATCH 10/13] blk-mq: only allocate a single mq_map per tag_set Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59 ` [PATCH 11/13] blk-mq: allow the driver to pass in an affinity mask Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-07-04  8:15   ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-07-04  8:15     ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-07-04  8:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-07-04  8:38       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-07-04  9:35       ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-07-04  9:35         ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-07-10  3:41         ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-07-10  3:41           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-07-12  6:42           ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-07-12  6:42             ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-06-14 19:59 ` [PATCH 12/13] nvme: switch to use pci_alloc_irq_vectors Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59 ` [PATCH 13/13] nvme: remove the post_scan callout Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-14 19:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-16  9:45 ` automatic interrupt affinity for MSI/MSI-X capable devices V2 Bart Van Assche
2016-06-16  9:45   ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-16  9:45   ` Bart Van Assche
2016-06-16 15:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-16 15:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-06-26 19:40 ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-06-26 19:40   ` Alexander Gordeev
2016-07-04  8:39 automatic interrupt affinity for MSI/MSI-X capable devices V3 Christoph Hellwig
2016-07-04  8:39 ` [PATCH 02/13] irq: Introduce IRQD_AFFINITY_MANAGED flag Christoph Hellwig
2016-07-04  8:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-07-04  8:39   ` Christoph Hellwig

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