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From: "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: "Andrew Davis" <afd@ti.com>,
	"Frank Binns" <frank.binns@imgtec.com>,
	"Donald Robson" <donald.robson@imgtec.com>,
	"Matt Coster" <matt.coster@imgtec.com>,
	"Adam Ford" <aford173@gmail.com>,
	"Ivaylo Dimitrov" <ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Chen-Yu Tsai" <wens@csie.org>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	"Samuel Holland" <samuel@sholland.org>,
	"Benoît Cousson" <bcousson@baylibre.com>,
	"Tony Lindgren" <tony@atomide.com>, "Nishanth Menon" <nm@ti.com>,
	"Vignesh Raghavendra" <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	"Tero Kristo" <kristo@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 04/11] ARM: dts: omap4: Add device tree entry for SGX GPU
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 09:55:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7BC64F03-A4DF-411F-9B6F-6BCA436D9B50@goldelico.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vpcgccul53oibwoqb3barj3rjxoyskoldjyfvjdzmytic3tonm@wq4aqsenk7rp>

Hi,

> Am 15.01.2024 um 09:25 schrieb Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 06:33:58PM +0100, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>>> Am 08.01.2024 um 19:32 schrieb Andrew Davis <afd@ti.com>:
>>> 
>>> Add SGX GPU device entry to base OMAP4 dtsi file.
>>> 
>>> Signed-off-by: Andrew Davis <afd@ti.com>
>>> ---
>>> arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi | 9 +++++----
>>> 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>> 
>>> diff --git a/arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi b/arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi
>>> index 2bbff9032be3e..559b2bfe4ca7c 100644
>>> --- a/arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi
>>> +++ b/arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi
>>> @@ -501,10 +501,11 @@ sgx_module: target-module@56000000 {
>>> #size-cells = <1>;
>>> ranges = <0 0x56000000 0x2000000>;
>>> 
>>> - /*
>>> - * Closed source PowerVR driver, no child device
>>> - * binding or driver in mainline
>>> - */
>>> + gpu@0 {
>> 
>> I wonder why we don't add a "gpu:" label here.
>> 
>> Almost all other subsystem nodes have one (e.g. emif:, aes:, dss:, dsi:, hdmi:, etc.),
>> obviously for convenience when using a .dtsi file.
>> 
>> It would allow a board-specific DTS to easily add status = "disabled" to avoid driver
>> probing or disabling the GPU (e.g. if there is no display).
> 
> There's no reason to disable it in the DT: the hardware block would
> still be there and it's rendering to memory so it still could be useful.

Well, if you know that the board does not have a dm3730 but a dm3725 without
GPU it is better to disable the GPU completely instead of loading the driver
and make it detect by some internal bits that it has no GPU on the SoC.

> If there's no display on the board and you really don't want the GPU
> driver, then you can disable the driver or block the module loading, but
> it should be a distro / package / user decision, not a DT / kernel one
> still.

The same holds for aes: dss: dsi: hdmi: etc. If they are not used by some
board file, they don't change a single bit of the DTB [1] which IMHO would
be of reasonable concern to question additional labels.

BR and thanks,
Nikolaus

[1] https://devicetree-specification.readthedocs.io/en/stable/source-language.html
"Labels are only used in the devicetree source format and are not encoded into the
DTB binary."


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From: "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: "Andrew Davis" <afd@ti.com>,
	"Frank Binns" <frank.binns@imgtec.com>,
	"Donald Robson" <donald.robson@imgtec.com>,
	"Matt Coster" <matt.coster@imgtec.com>,
	"Adam Ford" <aford173@gmail.com>,
	"Ivaylo Dimitrov" <ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Chen-Yu Tsai" <wens@csie.org>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	"Samuel Holland" <samuel@sholland.org>,
	"Benoît Cousson" <bcousson@baylibre.com>,
	"Tony Lindgren" <tony@atomide.com>, "Nishanth Menon" <nm@ti.com>,
	"Vignesh Raghavendra" <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	"Tero Kristo" <kristo@kernel.org>,
	"Paul Cercueil" <paul@crapouillou.net>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 04/11] ARM: dts: omap4: Add device tree entry for SGX GPU
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 09:55:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7BC64F03-A4DF-411F-9B6F-6BCA436D9B50@goldelico.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vpcgccul53oibwoqb3barj3rjxoyskoldjyfvjdzmytic3tonm@wq4aqsenk7rp>

Hi,

> Am 15.01.2024 um 09:25 schrieb Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 06:33:58PM +0100, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>>> Am 08.01.2024 um 19:32 schrieb Andrew Davis <afd@ti.com>:
>>> 
>>> Add SGX GPU device entry to base OMAP4 dtsi file.
>>> 
>>> Signed-off-by: Andrew Davis <afd@ti.com>
>>> ---
>>> arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi | 9 +++++----
>>> 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>> 
>>> diff --git a/arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi b/arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi
>>> index 2bbff9032be3e..559b2bfe4ca7c 100644
>>> --- a/arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi
>>> +++ b/arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi
>>> @@ -501,10 +501,11 @@ sgx_module: target-module@56000000 {
>>> #size-cells = <1>;
>>> ranges = <0 0x56000000 0x2000000>;
>>> 
>>> - /*
>>> - * Closed source PowerVR driver, no child device
>>> - * binding or driver in mainline
>>> - */
>>> + gpu@0 {
>> 
>> I wonder why we don't add a "gpu:" label here.
>> 
>> Almost all other subsystem nodes have one (e.g. emif:, aes:, dss:, dsi:, hdmi:, etc.),
>> obviously for convenience when using a .dtsi file.
>> 
>> It would allow a board-specific DTS to easily add status = "disabled" to avoid driver
>> probing or disabling the GPU (e.g. if there is no display).
> 
> There's no reason to disable it in the DT: the hardware block would
> still be there and it's rendering to memory so it still could be useful.

Well, if you know that the board does not have a dm3730 but a dm3725 without
GPU it is better to disable the GPU completely instead of loading the driver
and make it detect by some internal bits that it has no GPU on the SoC.

> If there's no display on the board and you really don't want the GPU
> driver, then you can disable the driver or block the module loading, but
> it should be a distro / package / user decision, not a DT / kernel one
> still.

The same holds for aes: dss: dsi: hdmi: etc. If they are not used by some
board file, they don't change a single bit of the DTB [1] which IMHO would
be of reasonable concern to question additional labels.

BR and thanks,
Nikolaus

[1] https://devicetree-specification.readthedocs.io/en/stable/source-language.html
"Labels are only used in the devicetree source format and are not encoded into the
DTB binary."


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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: "Nishanth Menon" <nm@ti.com>,
	"Vignesh Raghavendra" <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	"Tony Lindgren" <tony@atomide.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paul Cercueil" <paul@crapouillou.net>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Ivaylo Dimitrov" <ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com>,
	"Samuel Holland" <samuel@sholland.org>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	"Chen-Yu Tsai" <wens@csie.org>,
	"Donald Robson" <donald.robson@imgtec.com>,
	linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Benoît Cousson" <bcousson@baylibre.com>,
	"Matt Coster" <matt.coster@imgtec.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, "Adam Ford" <aford173@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Tero Kristo" <kristo@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Andrew Davis" <afd@ti.com>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 04/11] ARM: dts: omap4: Add device tree entry for SGX GPU
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 09:55:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7BC64F03-A4DF-411F-9B6F-6BCA436D9B50@goldelico.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vpcgccul53oibwoqb3barj3rjxoyskoldjyfvjdzmytic3tonm@wq4aqsenk7rp>

Hi,

> Am 15.01.2024 um 09:25 schrieb Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 06:33:58PM +0100, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>>> Am 08.01.2024 um 19:32 schrieb Andrew Davis <afd@ti.com>:
>>> 
>>> Add SGX GPU device entry to base OMAP4 dtsi file.
>>> 
>>> Signed-off-by: Andrew Davis <afd@ti.com>
>>> ---
>>> arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi | 9 +++++----
>>> 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>> 
>>> diff --git a/arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi b/arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi
>>> index 2bbff9032be3e..559b2bfe4ca7c 100644
>>> --- a/arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi
>>> +++ b/arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4.dtsi
>>> @@ -501,10 +501,11 @@ sgx_module: target-module@56000000 {
>>> #size-cells = <1>;
>>> ranges = <0 0x56000000 0x2000000>;
>>> 
>>> - /*
>>> - * Closed source PowerVR driver, no child device
>>> - * binding or driver in mainline
>>> - */
>>> + gpu@0 {
>> 
>> I wonder why we don't add a "gpu:" label here.
>> 
>> Almost all other subsystem nodes have one (e.g. emif:, aes:, dss:, dsi:, hdmi:, etc.),
>> obviously for convenience when using a .dtsi file.
>> 
>> It would allow a board-specific DTS to easily add status = "disabled" to avoid driver
>> probing or disabling the GPU (e.g. if there is no display).
> 
> There's no reason to disable it in the DT: the hardware block would
> still be there and it's rendering to memory so it still could be useful.

Well, if you know that the board does not have a dm3730 but a dm3725 without
GPU it is better to disable the GPU completely instead of loading the driver
and make it detect by some internal bits that it has no GPU on the SoC.

> If there's no display on the board and you really don't want the GPU
> driver, then you can disable the driver or block the module loading, but
> it should be a distro / package / user decision, not a DT / kernel one
> still.

The same holds for aes: dss: dsi: hdmi: etc. If they are not used by some
board file, they don't change a single bit of the DTB [1] which IMHO would
be of reasonable concern to question additional labels.

BR and thanks,
Nikolaus

[1] https://devicetree-specification.readthedocs.io/en/stable/source-language.html
"Labels are only used in the devicetree source format and are not encoded into the
DTB binary."


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-15  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-08 18:32 [PATCH RFC v2 00/11] Device tree support for Imagination Series5 GPU Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32 ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32 ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/11] dt-bindings: gpu: Rename img,powervr to img,powervr-rogue Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/11] dt-bindings: gpu: Rename img, powervr to img, powervr-rogue Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/11] dt-bindings: gpu: Rename img,powervr to img,powervr-rogue Andrew Davis
2024-01-09  8:14   ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/11] dt-bindings: gpu: Rename img, powervr to img, powervr-rogue Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  8:14     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  8:14     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  9:40   ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/11] dt-bindings: gpu: Rename img,powervr to img,powervr-rogue Frank Binns
2024-01-09  9:40     ` Frank Binns
2024-01-09  9:40     ` Frank Binns
2024-01-09 11:28   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-09 11:28     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-09 11:28     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-09 16:14     ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-09 16:14       ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-09 16:14       ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-09 18:55       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-09 18:55         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-09 18:55         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-08 18:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/11] dt-bindings: gpu: Add PowerVR Series5 SGX GPUs Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-09 11:32   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-09 11:32     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-09 11:32     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-09 16:53     ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-09 16:53       ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-09 16:53       ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-09 18:58       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-09 18:58         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-09 18:58         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-08 18:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/11] ARM: dts: omap3: Add device tree entry for SGX GPU Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-09  8:17   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  8:17     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  8:17     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-08 18:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/11] ARM: dts: omap4: " Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-09  8:17   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  8:17     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  8:17     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-12 17:33   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2024-01-12 17:33     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2024-01-12 17:33     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2024-01-15  8:25     ` Maxime Ripard
2024-01-15  8:25       ` Maxime Ripard
2024-01-15  8:25       ` Maxime Ripard
2024-01-15  8:55       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller [this message]
2024-01-15  8:55         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2024-01-15  8:55         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2024-01-15  9:50         ` Andreas Kemnade
2024-01-15  9:50           ` Andreas Kemnade
2024-01-15  9:50           ` Andreas Kemnade
2024-01-15 14:45         ` Maxime Ripard
2024-01-15 14:45           ` Maxime Ripard
2024-01-15 14:45           ` Maxime Ripard
2024-01-08 18:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/11] ARM: dts: omap5: " Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-09  8:17   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  8:17     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  8:17     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-08 18:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/11] ARM: dts: AM33xx: " Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-09  8:17   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  8:17     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  8:17     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-08 18:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/11] ARM: dts: AM437x: " Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-09  8:18   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  8:18     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  8:18     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-08 18:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/11] ARM: dts: DRA7xx: " Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:32   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-09  8:18   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  8:18     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-09  8:18     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-01-08 18:33 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/11] arm64: dts: ti: k3-am654-main: " Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:33   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:33   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:33 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/11] ARM: dts: sun6i: " Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:33   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:33   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:33 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/11] MIPS: DTS: jz4780: " Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:33   ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-08 18:33   ` Andrew Davis

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