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From: Jane Chu <jane.chu@oracle.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "david@fromorbit.com" <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"djwong@kernel.org" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	"vishal.l.verma@intel.com" <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	"dave.jiang@intel.com" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"agk@redhat.com" <agk@redhat.com>,
	"snitzer@redhat.com" <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	"ira.weiny@intel.com" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	"willy@infradead.org" <willy@infradead.org>,
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	"linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 4/6] dax: add DAX_RECOVERY flag and .recovery_write dev_pgmap_ops
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 00:48:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <847e8c8c-f1b0-66f5-f3e6-e2f6c618a80f@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4gfF4AhxD_vqCS9CTRraj8GAMDYQ7Zb411+FvxhF4ccOw@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/11/2022 4:55 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 10:31 PM Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 06, 2022 at 05:32:31PM +0000, Jane Chu wrote:
>>> Yes, I believe Dan was motivated by avoiding the dm dance as a result of
>>> adding .recovery_write to dax_operations.
>>>
>>> I understand your point about .recovery_write is device specific and
>>> thus not something appropriate for device agnostic ops.
>>>
>>> I can see 2 options so far -
>>>
>>> 1)  add .recovery_write to dax_operations and do the dm dance to hunt
>>> down to the base device that actually provides the recovery action
>>
>> That would be my preference.  But I'll wait for Dan to chime in.
> 
> Yeah, so the motivation was avoiding plumbing recovery through stacked
> lookups when the recovery is specific to a pfn and the provider of
> that pfn, but I also see it from Christoph's perspective that the only
> agent that cares about recovery is the fsdax I/O path. Certainly
> having ->dax_direct_access() take a DAX_RECOVERY flag and the op
> itself go through the pgmap is a confusing split that I did not
> anticipate when I made the suggestion. Since that flag must be there,
> then the ->recovery_write() should also stay relative to a dax device.
> 
> Apologies for the thrash Jane.
> 
> One ask though, please separate plumbing the new flag argument to
> ->dax_direct_access() and plumbing the new operation into preparation
> patches before filling them in with the new goodness.

Okay, will do in next revision.

thanks!
-jane

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From: Jane Chu <jane.chu@oracle.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "nvdimm@lists.linux.dev" <nvdimm@lists.linux.dev>,
	"dave.jiang@intel.com" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"snitzer@redhat.com" <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	"djwong@kernel.org" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"david@fromorbit.com" <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"willy@infradead.org" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	"vgoyal@redhat.com" <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	"vishal.l.verma@intel.com" <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ira.weiny@intel.com" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	"agk@redhat.com" <agk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH v7 4/6] dax: add DAX_RECOVERY flag and .recovery_write dev_pgmap_ops
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 00:48:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <847e8c8c-f1b0-66f5-f3e6-e2f6c618a80f@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4gfF4AhxD_vqCS9CTRraj8GAMDYQ7Zb411+FvxhF4ccOw@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/11/2022 4:55 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 10:31 PM Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 06, 2022 at 05:32:31PM +0000, Jane Chu wrote:
>>> Yes, I believe Dan was motivated by avoiding the dm dance as a result of
>>> adding .recovery_write to dax_operations.
>>>
>>> I understand your point about .recovery_write is device specific and
>>> thus not something appropriate for device agnostic ops.
>>>
>>> I can see 2 options so far -
>>>
>>> 1)  add .recovery_write to dax_operations and do the dm dance to hunt
>>> down to the base device that actually provides the recovery action
>>
>> That would be my preference.  But I'll wait for Dan to chime in.
> 
> Yeah, so the motivation was avoiding plumbing recovery through stacked
> lookups when the recovery is specific to a pfn and the provider of
> that pfn, but I also see it from Christoph's perspective that the only
> agent that cares about recovery is the fsdax I/O path. Certainly
> having ->dax_direct_access() take a DAX_RECOVERY flag and the op
> itself go through the pgmap is a confusing split that I did not
> anticipate when I made the suggestion. Since that flag must be there,
> then the ->recovery_write() should also stay relative to a dax device.
> 
> Apologies for the thrash Jane.
> 
> One ask though, please separate plumbing the new flag argument to
> ->dax_direct_access() and plumbing the new operation into preparation
> patches before filling them in with the new goodness.

Okay, will do in next revision.

thanks!
-jane
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-14  0:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-05 19:47 [PATCH v7 0/6] DAX poison recovery Jane Chu
2022-04-05 19:47 ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-05 19:47 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] x86/mm: fix comment Jane Chu
2022-04-05 19:47   ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-11 22:07   ` Dan Williams
2022-04-11 22:07     ` [dm-devel] " Dan Williams
2022-04-12  9:53   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-12  9:53     ` [dm-devel] " Borislav Petkov
2022-04-14  1:00     ` Jane Chu
2022-04-14  1:00       ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-14  8:44       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-14  8:44         ` [dm-devel] " Borislav Petkov
2022-04-14 21:54         ` Jane Chu
2022-04-14 21:54           ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-05 19:47 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] x86/mce: relocate set{clear}_mce_nospec() functions Jane Chu
2022-04-05 19:47   ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-06  5:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-06  5:01     ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-11 22:20   ` Dan Williams
2022-04-11 22:20     ` [dm-devel] " Dan Williams
2022-04-14  0:56     ` Jane Chu
2022-04-14  0:56       ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-05 19:47 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] mce: fix set_mce_nospec to always unmap the whole page Jane Chu
2022-04-05 19:47   ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-06  5:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-06  5:02     ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-11 23:27   ` Dan Williams
2022-04-11 23:27     ` [dm-devel] " Dan Williams
2022-04-13 23:36     ` Jane Chu
2022-04-13 23:36       ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-14  2:32       ` Dan Williams
2022-04-14  2:32         ` [dm-devel] " Dan Williams
2022-04-15 16:18         ` Jane Chu
2022-04-15 16:18           ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-12 10:07   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-12 10:07     ` [dm-devel] " Borislav Petkov
2022-04-13 23:41     ` Jane Chu
2022-04-13 23:41       ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-05 19:47 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] dax: add DAX_RECOVERY flag and .recovery_write dev_pgmap_ops Jane Chu
2022-04-05 19:47   ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-06  5:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-06  5:19     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-06 17:32     ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-06 17:32       ` Jane Chu
2022-04-06 17:45       ` Jane Chu
2022-04-06 17:45         ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-07  5:30       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-07  5:30         ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-11 23:55         ` Dan Williams
2022-04-11 23:55           ` [dm-devel] " Dan Williams
2022-04-14  0:48           ` Jane Chu [this message]
2022-04-14  0:48             ` Jane Chu
2022-04-14  0:47         ` Jane Chu
2022-04-14  0:47           ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-12  0:08   ` Dan Williams
2022-04-12  0:08     ` [dm-devel] " Dan Williams
2022-04-14  0:50     ` Jane Chu
2022-04-14  0:50       ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-12  4:57   ` Dan Williams
2022-04-12  4:57     ` [dm-devel] " Dan Williams
2022-04-12  5:02     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-12  5:02       ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-14  0:51       ` Jane Chu
2022-04-14  0:51         ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-05 19:47 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] pmem: refactor pmem_clear_poison() Jane Chu
2022-04-05 19:47   ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-06  5:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-06  5:04     ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-06 17:34     ` Jane Chu
2022-04-06 17:34       ` Jane Chu
2022-04-12  4:26   ` Dan Williams
2022-04-12  4:26     ` [dm-devel] " Dan Williams
2022-04-14  0:55     ` Jane Chu
2022-04-14  0:55       ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-14  2:02       ` Dan Williams
2022-04-14  2:02         ` [dm-devel] " Dan Williams
2022-04-05 19:47 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] pmem: implement pmem_recovery_write() Jane Chu
2022-04-05 19:47   ` [dm-devel] " Jane Chu
2022-04-06  5:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-06  5:21     ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-06 17:33     ` Jane Chu
2022-04-06 17:33       ` Jane Chu

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