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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Nipun Gupta <nipun.gupta@amd.com>,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 4/7] bus/cdx: add cdx-MSI domain with gic-its domain as parent
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2022 12:17:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87leqvv3g7.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YxeBCsA32jnwMjSj@nvidia.com>

On Tue, 06 Sep 2022 18:19:06 +0100,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2022 at 07:17:58PM +0530, Nipun Gupta wrote:
> 
> > +static void cdx_msi_write_msg(struct irq_data *irq_data,
> > +			      struct msi_msg *msg)
> > +{
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Do nothing as CDX devices have these pre-populated
> > +	 * in the hardware itself.
> > +	 */
> > +}
> 
> Huh?
> 
> There is no way it can be pre-populated, the addr/data pair,
> especially on ARM, is completely under SW control.

There is nothing in the GIC spec that says that.

> There is some commonly used IOVA base in Linux for the ITS page, but
> no HW should hardwire that.

That's not strictly true. It really depends on how this block is
integrated, and there is a number of existing blocks that know *in HW*
how to signal an LPI.

See, as the canonical example, how the mbigen driver doesn't need to
know about the address of GITS_TRANSLATER.

Yes, this messes with translation (the access is downstream of the
SMMU) if you relied on it to have some isolation, and it has a "black
hole" effect as nobody can have an IOVA that overlaps with the
physical address of the GITS_TRANSLATER register.

But is it illegal as per the architecture? No. It's just stupid.

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Nipun Gupta <nipun.gupta@amd.com>,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	eric.auger@redhat.com, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
	cohuck@redhat.com, puneet.gupta@amd.com,
	song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com, mchehab+huawei@kernel.org,
	f.fainelli@gmail.com, jeffrey.l.hugo@gmail.com,
	saravanak@google.com, Michael.Srba@seznam.cz, mani@kernel.org,
	yishaih@nvidia.com, robin.murphy@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	joro@8bytes.org, masahiroy@kernel.org, ndesaulniers@google.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	okaya@kernel.org, harpreet.anand@amd.com, nikhil.agarwal@amd.com,
	michal.simek@amd.com, aleksandar.radovanovic@amd.com,
	git@amd.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 4/7] bus/cdx: add cdx-MSI domain with gic-its domain as parent
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2022 12:17:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87leqvv3g7.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YxeBCsA32jnwMjSj@nvidia.com>

On Tue, 06 Sep 2022 18:19:06 +0100,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2022 at 07:17:58PM +0530, Nipun Gupta wrote:
> 
> > +static void cdx_msi_write_msg(struct irq_data *irq_data,
> > +			      struct msi_msg *msg)
> > +{
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Do nothing as CDX devices have these pre-populated
> > +	 * in the hardware itself.
> > +	 */
> > +}
> 
> Huh?
> 
> There is no way it can be pre-populated, the addr/data pair,
> especially on ARM, is completely under SW control.

There is nothing in the GIC spec that says that.

> There is some commonly used IOVA base in Linux for the ITS page, but
> no HW should hardwire that.

That's not strictly true. It really depends on how this block is
integrated, and there is a number of existing blocks that know *in HW*
how to signal an LPI.

See, as the canonical example, how the mbigen driver doesn't need to
know about the address of GITS_TRANSLATER.

Yes, this messes with translation (the access is downstream of the
SMMU) if you relied on it to have some isolation, and it has a "black
hole" effect as nobody can have an IOVA that overlaps with the
physical address of the GITS_TRANSLATER register.

But is it illegal as per the architecture? No. It's just stupid.

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-07 11:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 198+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-03 12:26 [RFC PATCH 0/2] add support for CDX bus MSI domain Nipun Gupta
2022-08-03 12:26 ` Nipun Gupta
2022-08-03 12:26 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] irqchip: cdx-bus: add cdx-MSI domain with gic-its domain as parent Nipun Gupta
2022-08-03 12:26   ` Nipun Gupta
2022-08-03 12:33   ` Greg KH
2022-08-03 12:33     ` Greg KH
2022-08-03 12:37     ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-03 12:37       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-04  8:49   ` Marc Zyngier
2022-08-04  8:49     ` Marc Zyngier
2022-08-04  9:18     ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-04  9:18       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-04 10:38       ` Marc Zyngier
2022-08-04 12:11         ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-04 12:11           ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-03 12:26 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] driver core: add compatible string in sysfs for platform devices Nipun Gupta
2022-08-03 12:26   ` Nipun Gupta
2022-08-03 12:31   ` Greg KH
2022-08-03 12:31     ` Greg KH
2022-08-03 12:46     ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-03 12:46       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-03 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] add support for CDX bus MSI domain Robin Murphy
2022-08-03 14:16   ` Robin Murphy
2022-08-04  4:23   ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-04  4:23     ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-17 16:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-17 16:00     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-17 15:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] add support for CDX bus controller Nipun Gupta
2022-08-17 15:05   ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/6] Documentation: DT: Add entry for CDX controller Nipun Gupta
2022-08-18  9:54     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-18  9:59       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-05 14:05       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-06  6:55         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-06  7:03           ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-06  7:20             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-17 15:05   ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/6] bus/cdx: add the cdx bus driver Nipun Gupta
2022-08-17 15:32     ` Greg KH
2022-08-17 15:46       ` Marc Zyngier
2022-08-22 13:21       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-22 13:29         ` Greg KH
2022-08-24  8:50           ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-24 12:11             ` Greg KH
2022-08-24 23:31               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-25 18:38                 ` Saravana Kannan
2022-08-25 19:57                   ` Robin Murphy
2022-08-26  0:08                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-29  4:49                       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-29  4:49                     ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-29 15:31                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-30  7:06                         ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-30 11:25                           ` Robin Murphy
2022-08-30 13:01                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-30 13:12                             ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-08-17 15:05   ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/6] bus/cdx: add cdx-MSI domain with gic-its domain as parent Nipun Gupta
2022-08-17 15:33     ` Greg KH
2022-08-17 15:05   ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/6] bus/cdx: add rescan and reset support Nipun Gupta
2022-08-17 15:05   ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/6] vfio: platform: reset: add reset for cdx devices Nipun Gupta
2022-08-17 15:05   ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/6] driver core: add compatible string in sysfs for platform devices Nipun Gupta
2022-08-17 15:30     ` Greg KH
2022-08-17 16:04       ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-05 13:54         ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-06 13:47 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/7] add support for CDX bus Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 13:47   ` Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 13:47   ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/7] dt-bindings: bus: add CDX bus device tree bindings Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 13:47     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 17:46     ` Rob Herring
2022-09-06 17:46       ` Rob Herring
2022-09-07  3:13       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-07  3:13         ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-08 10:51         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-08 10:51           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-06 13:47   ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/7] bus/cdx: add the cdx bus driver Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 13:47     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-09-07  0:32     ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-07  0:32       ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-07  3:21       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-07  3:21         ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-07 18:06         ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-07 18:06           ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-07 12:32     ` Greg KH
2022-09-07 12:32       ` Greg KH
2022-09-08 13:29       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-08 13:29         ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-06 13:47   ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: support ops registration for CDX bus Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 13:47     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-09-07  0:10     ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-07  0:10       ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-07  3:17       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-07  3:17         ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-07  8:27         ` Robin Murphy
2022-09-07  8:27           ` Robin Murphy
2022-09-07 18:24           ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-07 18:24             ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-07 20:40             ` Robin Murphy
2022-09-07 20:40               ` Robin Murphy
2022-09-08  0:14               ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-08  0:14                 ` Saravana Kannan
2022-09-06 13:47   ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/7] bus/cdx: add cdx-MSI domain with gic-its domain as parent Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 13:47     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 17:19     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-06 17:19       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-07 11:17       ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2022-09-07 11:17         ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-07 11:33         ` Robin Murphy
2022-09-07 11:33           ` Robin Murphy
2022-09-07 12:14           ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-07 12:14             ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-07 11:35         ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-09-07 11:35           ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-09-07 12:32           ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-07 13:18             ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-09-07 13:18               ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-09-08  8:08               ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-08  9:51                 ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-09-08  9:51                   ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-09-08 11:49                   ` Robin Murphy
2022-09-08 11:49                     ` Robin Murphy
2022-09-08 14:18                   ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-07 13:18     ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-07 13:18       ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-08 14:13       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-08 14:13         ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-08 14:29         ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-09  6:32           ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-09  6:32             ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-12 10:04       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-12 10:04         ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-12 10:34         ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-12 10:34           ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-12 13:02           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-12 13:02             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-12 13:37             ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-12 13:37               ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-12 14:38               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-12 14:38                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-12 15:09                 ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-12 15:09                   ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-13 12:43                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-13 12:43                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-14 11:18                     ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-14 11:18                       ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-14 11:54                       ` gregkh
2022-10-14 11:54                         ` gregkh
2022-10-14 12:13                         ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-14 12:13                           ` Radovanovic, Aleksandar
2022-10-14 13:46                           ` gregkh
2022-10-14 13:46                             ` gregkh
2022-10-14 13:58                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-14 13:58                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-06 13:47   ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/7] bus/cdx: add bus and device attributes Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 13:47     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 13:48   ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/7] vfio/cdx: add support for CDX bus Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 13:48     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 17:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-06 17:20       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-06 17:23       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-06 17:23         ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-09-06 13:48   ` [RFC PATCH v3 7/7] vfio/cdx: add interrupt support Nipun Gupta
2022-09-06 13:48     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/8] add support for CDX bus Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40   ` Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/8] dt-bindings: bus: add CDX bus device tree bindings Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14 14:17     ` Rob Herring
2022-10-14 14:17       ` Rob Herring
2022-10-17 10:18       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-17 10:18         ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/8] bus/cdx: add the cdx bus driver Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  7:15     ` Greg KH
2022-10-14  7:15       ` Greg KH
2022-10-14  8:12       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-14  8:12         ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-14  7:18     ` Greg KH
2022-10-14  7:18       ` Greg KH
2022-10-14  8:20       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-14  8:20         ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: support ops registration for CDX bus Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:51     ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-14  4:51       ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/8] bux/cdx: support dma configuration for CDX devices Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/8] bus/cdx: add bus and device attributes Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/8] irq/msi: use implicit msi domain for alloc and free Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/8] bus/cdx: add cdx-MSI domain with gic-its domain as parent Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-10-17 13:08     ` kernel test robot
2022-11-17 19:10     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-17 19:10       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-10-14  4:40   ` [RFC PATCH v4 8/8] bus/cdx: add cdx controller Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14  4:40     ` Nipun Gupta
2022-10-14 14:10   ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/8] add support for CDX bus Rob Herring
2022-10-14 14:10     ` Rob Herring
2022-10-17 10:08     ` Gupta, Nipun
2022-10-17 10:08       ` Gupta, Nipun

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