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From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
Cc: "Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Grant Likely" <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	"devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org"
	<devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"James Hogan" <james.hogan@imgtec.com>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] pinctrl: clarify some dt pinconfig options
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:51:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkdbKOWEjnkzY2zGOqWPQ7okBjhK4=QR0tHhJYQa42nefXQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51C22C5F.5020402@wwwdotorg.org>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org> wrote:
> On 06/14/2013 09:42 AM, Heiko Stübner wrote:

>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pinctrl/pinctrl-bindings.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pinctrl/pinctrl-bindings.txt
>
>> -low-power-mode               - low power mode
>> +low-power-enable     - enable low power mode
>> +low-power-disable    - disable low power mode
>
> Hmmm. That's changing the binding definition. What if somebody already
> wrote their device tree according previous definition?

It's not merged so see it as alterations to a WIP in the
turners workshop or something.

> It seems to be that tri-states are preferable for pinctrl DT:
>
> no entry: do nothing
> = 0: disable
> = 1: enable

Better with explict enable/disable strings instead of
<0> or <1> I think, but the semantic effect would be the
same I guess, the upside with *enable/*disable strings is
that we do not have to handle cases like
tristate = <2>; ...

>> +Arguments for parameters:
>> +
>> +- bias-pull-up, -down and -pin-default take as optional argument 0 to disable
>> +  the pull, on hardware supporting it the pull strength in Ohm. bias-disable
>> +  will also disable any active pull.
>
> Does this agree with the latest definition of the kernel-internal
> meaning of 0 for pull-up/down?

No that is wrong. Heiko, care to fix this binding doc?

>> +- input-schmitt takes as argument the adjustable hysteresis in a
>> +  driver-specific format
>> +
>> +- input-debounce takes the debounce time as argument or 0 to disable debouncing
>> +
>> +- power-source argument is the custom value describing the source to select
>> +
>> +- slew-rate takes as argument the target rate in a driver-specific format
>
> If those things have driver-specific (note: should be
> DT-binding-specific, not driver-specific) values, then I'm not convinced
> that having a generic parameter name for them is a good idea; it makes
> things look the same when they aren't. By forcing each binding to
> include the vendor prefix on those properties and hence define a custom
> property name, you're making it clear that the semantics may be different.

Hmmm I don't think they're used right now, let's deal with them when
we have something to showcase them with. Patches to delete the
unclear bindings will be considered...

Yours,
Linus Walleij

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From: linus.walleij@linaro.org (Linus Walleij)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/5] pinctrl: clarify some dt pinconfig options
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:51:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkdbKOWEjnkzY2zGOqWPQ7okBjhK4=QR0tHhJYQa42nefXQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51C22C5F.5020402@wwwdotorg.org>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org> wrote:
> On 06/14/2013 09:42 AM, Heiko St?bner wrote:

>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pinctrl/pinctrl-bindings.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pinctrl/pinctrl-bindings.txt
>
>> -low-power-mode               - low power mode
>> +low-power-enable     - enable low power mode
>> +low-power-disable    - disable low power mode
>
> Hmmm. That's changing the binding definition. What if somebody already
> wrote their device tree according previous definition?

It's not merged so see it as alterations to a WIP in the
turners workshop or something.

> It seems to be that tri-states are preferable for pinctrl DT:
>
> no entry: do nothing
> = 0: disable
> = 1: enable

Better with explict enable/disable strings instead of
<0> or <1> I think, but the semantic effect would be the
same I guess, the upside with *enable/*disable strings is
that we do not have to handle cases like
tristate = <2>; ...

>> +Arguments for parameters:
>> +
>> +- bias-pull-up, -down and -pin-default take as optional argument 0 to disable
>> +  the pull, on hardware supporting it the pull strength in Ohm. bias-disable
>> +  will also disable any active pull.
>
> Does this agree with the latest definition of the kernel-internal
> meaning of 0 for pull-up/down?

No that is wrong. Heiko, care to fix this binding doc?

>> +- input-schmitt takes as argument the adjustable hysteresis in a
>> +  driver-specific format
>> +
>> +- input-debounce takes the debounce time as argument or 0 to disable debouncing
>> +
>> +- power-source argument is the custom value describing the source to select
>> +
>> +- slew-rate takes as argument the target rate in a driver-specific format
>
> If those things have driver-specific (note: should be
> DT-binding-specific, not driver-specific) values, then I'm not convinced
> that having a generic parameter name for them is a good idea; it makes
> things look the same when they aren't. By forcing each binding to
> include the vendor prefix on those properties and hence define a custom
> property name, you're making it clear that the semantics may be different.

Hmmm I don't think they're used right now, let's deal with them when
we have something to showcase them with. Patches to delete the
unclear bindings will be considered...

Yours,
Linus Walleij

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-24  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-14 15:41 [PATCH 0/5] pinctrl: fix some issues with new pinconfig dt parsing Heiko Stübner
2013-06-14 15:41 ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-14 15:41 ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-14 15:42 ` [PATCH 1/5] pinctrl: update the documentation for some pinconfig params Heiko Stübner
2013-06-14 15:42   ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-14 15:42   ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-16 10:26   ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 10:26     ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 10:26     ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 10:45     ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-16 10:45       ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-16 10:45       ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-16 12:26       ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 12:26         ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 12:26         ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-14 15:42 ` [PATCH 2/5] pinctrl: clarify some dt pinconfig options Heiko Stübner
2013-06-14 15:42   ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-14 15:42   ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-16 10:28   ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 10:28     ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 10:28     ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-19 22:10   ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-19 22:10     ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-19 22:10     ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-24  9:51     ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2013-06-24  9:51       ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-14 15:43 ` [PATCH 3/5] pinctrl: handle zero found dt pinconfig properties better Heiko Stübner
2013-06-14 15:43   ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-14 15:43   ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-16 10:29   ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 10:29     ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 10:29     ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-14 15:43 ` [PATCH 4/5] pinctrl: dynamically alloc temp array when parsing dt pinconf options Heiko Stübner
2013-06-14 15:43   ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-14 15:43   ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-16 10:31   ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 10:31     ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 10:31     ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-14 15:44 ` [PATCH 5/5] pinctrl: rockchip: correctly handle arguments of " Heiko Stübner
2013-06-14 15:44   ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-14 15:44   ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-16 10:35   ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 10:35     ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 10:35     ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 11:02     ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-16 11:02       ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-16 11:02       ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-16 12:35       ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 12:35         ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 12:35         ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 15:41         ` [PATCH v2] " Heiko Stübner
2013-06-16 15:41           ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-16 15:41           ` Heiko Stübner
2013-06-17 15:48           ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-17 15:48             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-17 15:48             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-14 15:53 ` [PATCH 0/5] pinctrl: fix some issues with new pinconfig dt parsing James Hogan
2013-06-14 15:53   ` James Hogan
2013-06-14 15:53   ` James Hogan
2013-06-17  3:03   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-06-17  3:03     ` Laurent Pinchart

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