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From: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
To: John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>
Cc: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	casey.schaufler@intel.com, jmorris@namei.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-audit@redhat.com, keescook@chromium.org,
	penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp,
	stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v35 22/29] Audit: Keep multiple LSM data in audit_names
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 13:57:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHC9VhRhDGMUH-WfyoMDLdDFWbzTcDGhKFZNB22-Ha3dhUKyCQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c196795a-910a-1e70-4809-c96717767e39@canonical.com>

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 7:32 PM John Johansen
<john.johansen@canonical.com> wrote:
> On 4/18/22 07:59, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> > Replace the osid field in the audit_names structure
> > with a lsmblob structure. This accomodates the use
> > of an lsmblob in security_audit_rule_match() and
> > security_inode_getsecid().
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
> > Acked-by: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
> > ---
> >  kernel/audit.h   |  2 +-
> >  kernel/auditsc.c | 22 ++++++++--------------
> >  2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)

...

> > diff --git a/kernel/auditsc.c b/kernel/auditsc.c
> > index 231631f61550..6fe9f2525fc1 100644
> > --- a/kernel/auditsc.c
> > +++ b/kernel/auditsc.c
> > @@ -700,17 +700,16 @@ static int audit_filter_rules(struct task_struct *tsk,
> >                                        * lsmblob, which happens later in
> >                                        * this patch set.
> >                                        */
> > -                                     lsmblob_init(&blob, name->osid);
> >                                       result = security_audit_rule_match(
> > -                                                             &blob,
> > +                                                             &name->lsmblob,
> >                                                               f->type,
> >                                                               f->op,
> >                                                               &f->lsm_rules);
> >                               } else if (ctx) {
> >                                       list_for_each_entry(n, &ctx->names_list, list) {
> > -                                             lsmblob_init(&blob, n->osid);
> >                                               if (security_audit_rule_match(
> > -                                                     &blob, f->type, f->op,
> > +                                                     &n->lsmblob,
> > +                                                     f->type, f->op,
> >                                                       &f->lsm_rules)) {
> >                                                       ++result;
> >                                                       break;
> > @@ -1589,13 +1588,12 @@ static void audit_log_name(struct audit_context *context, struct audit_names *n,
> >                                from_kgid(&init_user_ns, n->gid),
> >                                MAJOR(n->rdev),
> >                                MINOR(n->rdev));
> > -     if (n->osid != 0) {
> > -             struct lsmblob blob;
> > +     if (lsmblob_is_set(&n->lsmblob)) {
> >               struct lsmcontext lsmctx;
> >
> > -             lsmblob_init(&blob, n->osid);
> > -             if (security_secid_to_secctx(&blob, &lsmctx, LSMBLOB_FIRST)) {
> > -                     audit_log_format(ab, " osid=%u", n->osid);
> > +             if (security_secid_to_secctx(&n->lsmblob, &lsmctx,
> > +                                          LSMBLOB_FIRST)) {
> > +                     audit_log_format(ab, " osid=?");
>
> is there something better we can do here? This feels like a regression

Unfortunately no, or at least nothing has been suggested that is an
improvement on this approach.  We could overload the existing field,
but that runs the risk of confusing userspace tooling and potentially
bumping into the buffer limit in some more complex configurations.
The "?" value was chosen as it is a commonly accepted way for the
audit subsystem to indicate that a value is "missing" and in the case
of new/updated userspace tooling this would be an indication to look
for the new record type which provides all of the necessary LSM
labels.  In the case of old/unaware userspace tooling it would serve
as a graceful indicator that something is awry, i.e. you are using new
kernel functionality without updating your userspace.

-- 
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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
To: John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>
Cc: selinux@vger.kernel.org, jmorris@namei.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, casey.schaufler@intel.com,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v35 22/29] Audit: Keep multiple LSM data in audit_names
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 13:57:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHC9VhRhDGMUH-WfyoMDLdDFWbzTcDGhKFZNB22-Ha3dhUKyCQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c196795a-910a-1e70-4809-c96717767e39@canonical.com>

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 7:32 PM John Johansen
<john.johansen@canonical.com> wrote:
> On 4/18/22 07:59, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> > Replace the osid field in the audit_names structure
> > with a lsmblob structure. This accomodates the use
> > of an lsmblob in security_audit_rule_match() and
> > security_inode_getsecid().
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
> > Acked-by: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
> > ---
> >  kernel/audit.h   |  2 +-
> >  kernel/auditsc.c | 22 ++++++++--------------
> >  2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)

...

> > diff --git a/kernel/auditsc.c b/kernel/auditsc.c
> > index 231631f61550..6fe9f2525fc1 100644
> > --- a/kernel/auditsc.c
> > +++ b/kernel/auditsc.c
> > @@ -700,17 +700,16 @@ static int audit_filter_rules(struct task_struct *tsk,
> >                                        * lsmblob, which happens later in
> >                                        * this patch set.
> >                                        */
> > -                                     lsmblob_init(&blob, name->osid);
> >                                       result = security_audit_rule_match(
> > -                                                             &blob,
> > +                                                             &name->lsmblob,
> >                                                               f->type,
> >                                                               f->op,
> >                                                               &f->lsm_rules);
> >                               } else if (ctx) {
> >                                       list_for_each_entry(n, &ctx->names_list, list) {
> > -                                             lsmblob_init(&blob, n->osid);
> >                                               if (security_audit_rule_match(
> > -                                                     &blob, f->type, f->op,
> > +                                                     &n->lsmblob,
> > +                                                     f->type, f->op,
> >                                                       &f->lsm_rules)) {
> >                                                       ++result;
> >                                                       break;
> > @@ -1589,13 +1588,12 @@ static void audit_log_name(struct audit_context *context, struct audit_names *n,
> >                                from_kgid(&init_user_ns, n->gid),
> >                                MAJOR(n->rdev),
> >                                MINOR(n->rdev));
> > -     if (n->osid != 0) {
> > -             struct lsmblob blob;
> > +     if (lsmblob_is_set(&n->lsmblob)) {
> >               struct lsmcontext lsmctx;
> >
> > -             lsmblob_init(&blob, n->osid);
> > -             if (security_secid_to_secctx(&blob, &lsmctx, LSMBLOB_FIRST)) {
> > -                     audit_log_format(ab, " osid=%u", n->osid);
> > +             if (security_secid_to_secctx(&n->lsmblob, &lsmctx,
> > +                                          LSMBLOB_FIRST)) {
> > +                     audit_log_format(ab, " osid=?");
>
> is there something better we can do here? This feels like a regression

Unfortunately no, or at least nothing has been suggested that is an
improvement on this approach.  We could overload the existing field,
but that runs the risk of confusing userspace tooling and potentially
bumping into the buffer limit in some more complex configurations.
The "?" value was chosen as it is a commonly accepted way for the
audit subsystem to indicate that a value is "missing" and in the case
of new/updated userspace tooling this would be an indication to look
for the new record type which provides all of the necessary LSM
labels.  In the case of old/unaware userspace tooling it would serve
as a graceful indicator that something is awry, i.e. you are using new
kernel functionality without updating your userspace.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-26 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20220418145945.38797-1-casey.ref@schaufler-ca.com>
2022-04-18 14:59 ` [PATCH v35 00/29] LSM: Module stacking for AppArmor Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 01/29] integrity: disassociate ima_filter_rule from security_audit_rule Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-21 16:51     ` John Johansen
2022-04-21 16:51       ` John Johansen
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 02/29] LSM: Infrastructure management of the sock security Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 03/29] LSM: Add the lsmblob data structure Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-26 23:15     ` John Johansen
2022-04-26 23:15       ` John Johansen
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 04/29] LSM: provide lsm name and id slot mappings Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-21 16:50     ` John Johansen
2022-04-21 16:50       ` John Johansen
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 05/29] IMA: avoid label collisions with stacked LSMs Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-19 16:50     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-20 19:23       ` Mimi Zohar
2022-04-20 21:15         ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-21  3:22       ` Mimi Zohar
2022-04-21 16:50     ` John Johansen
2022-04-21 16:50       ` John Johansen
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 06/29] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_audit_rule_match Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-21 16:49     ` John Johansen
2022-04-21 16:49       ` John Johansen
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 07/29] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_kernel_act_as Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 08/29] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_secctx_to_secid Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-27  0:38     ` John Johansen
2022-04-27  0:38       ` John Johansen
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 09/29] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_secid_to_secctx Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 10/29] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_ipc_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 11/29] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_current_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 12/29] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_inode_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 13/29] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_cred_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 18:02     ` kernel test robot
2022-04-18 18:02       ` kernel test robot
2022-04-19  0:41     ` kernel test robot
2022-04-19  0:41       ` kernel test robot
2022-04-19  0:51     ` kernel test robot
2022-04-19  0:51       ` kernel test robot
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 14/29] LSM: Specify which LSM to display Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 15/29] LSM: Ensure the correct LSM context releaser Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 16/29] LSM: Use lsmcontext in security_secid_to_secctx Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 17/29] LSM: Use lsmcontext in security_inode_getsecctx Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 18/29] LSM: security_secid_to_secctx in netlink netfilter Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 19/29] NET: Store LSM netlabel data in a lsmblob Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 20/29] binder: Pass LSM identifier for confirmation Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 21/29] LSM: Extend security_secid_to_secctx to include module selection Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-25 23:32     ` John Johansen
2022-04-25 23:32       ` John Johansen
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 22/29] Audit: Keep multiple LSM data in audit_names Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-25 23:32     ` John Johansen
2022-04-25 23:32       ` John Johansen
2022-04-26 17:57       ` Paul Moore [this message]
2022-04-26 17:57         ` Paul Moore
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 23/29] Audit: Create audit_stamp structure Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-25 23:31     ` John Johansen
2022-04-25 23:31       ` John Johansen
2022-04-26 18:03       ` Paul Moore
2022-04-26 18:03         ` Paul Moore
2022-04-26 18:58         ` John Johansen
2022-04-26 18:58           ` John Johansen
2022-04-26 19:18           ` Paul Moore
2022-04-26 19:18             ` Paul Moore
2022-04-27 15:49             ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-27 15:49               ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-27 16:02               ` Paul Moore
2022-04-27 16:02                 ` Paul Moore
2022-04-27 20:55                 ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-27 20:55                   ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 24/29] LSM: Add a function to report multiple LSMs Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-22 16:26     ` Paul Moore
2022-04-22 16:26       ` Paul Moore
2022-04-25 23:33     ` John Johansen
2022-04-25 23:33       ` John Johansen
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 25/29] Audit: Allow multiple records in an audit_buffer Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-22 16:27     ` Paul Moore
2022-04-22 16:27       ` Paul Moore
2022-04-26  1:06     ` John Johansen
2022-04-26  1:06       ` John Johansen
2022-04-26 18:12       ` Paul Moore
2022-04-26 18:12         ` Paul Moore
2022-04-26 19:01         ` John Johansen
2022-04-26 19:01           ` John Johansen
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 26/29] Audit: Add record for multiple task security contexts Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-22 16:28     ` Paul Moore
2022-04-22 16:28       ` Paul Moore
2022-04-26  1:08     ` John Johansen
2022-04-26  1:08       ` John Johansen
2022-04-26 18:15       ` Paul Moore
2022-04-26 18:15         ` Paul Moore
2022-04-26 19:07         ` John Johansen
2022-04-26 19:07           ` John Johansen
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 27/29] Audit: Add record for multiple object contexts Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-22 16:29     ` Paul Moore
2022-04-22 16:29       ` Paul Moore
2022-04-26  3:37     ` John Johansen
2022-04-26  3:37       ` John Johansen
2022-04-26 18:57       ` Paul Moore
2022-04-26 18:57         ` Paul Moore
2022-04-26 19:24         ` John Johansen
2022-04-26 19:24           ` John Johansen
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 28/29] LSM: Add /proc attr entry for full LSM context Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler
2022-04-22  8:37     ` John Johansen
2022-04-22  8:37       ` John Johansen
2022-04-18 14:59   ` [PATCH v35 29/29] AppArmor: Remove the exclusive flag Casey Schaufler
2022-04-18 14:59     ` Casey Schaufler

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