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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm>,
	Daniel Rosenberg <drosen@google.com>,
	 Paul Lawrence <paullawrence@google.com>,
	Alessio Balsini <balsini@android.com>,
	 Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,  linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 00/12] FUSE passthrough for file io
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2023 16:25:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegt3mEii075roOTk6RKeNKGc89pGMkWrvVM0uLyrpg7Ebg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxja2G2M22bWSi_kDE2vdxs+sJ0ua9JgD-e7LEGsTcNGXw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 at 16:06, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:

> That would make sense if readdirplus request is sent to server
> in parallel to executing readdir passthrough and readdirplus
> response does the prepopulation asynchronously.

Yes, that's fine, and it might even make sense to do that regardless
of passthrough.  Readdirplus is similar to read-ahead in this regard.

> Are you also referring to mixing cached and uncached readdir?
> because that seems fine to me.

But is it really fine?  The server must be very careful to prevent
inconsistency between the cached and the uncached readdir, which could
lead to really surprising results.  I just see no point in caching if
the same result is available from a backing directory.

> I will try to add these rules to FOPEN_PASSTHROUGH:
> - ignore request on backing inode conflict
> - ignore request if inode is already open in caching mode
> - make FOPEN_PASSTHROUGH implicit if inode is already open
>   in passthrough *unless* file is open with FOPEN_DIRECT_IO

Sounds good.

There's still this case:

 - file is opened in non-passthrough caching mode, and is being read/written
 - at the same time the file is opened in passthrough mode

The proper thing would be to switch the first file to passthrough mode
while it's open.  It adds some complexity but I think it's worth it.

Thanks,
Miklos



>
> Thanks,
> Amir.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-01 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-16 16:08 [PATCH v14 00/12] FUSE passthrough for file io Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 01/12] fs: prepare for stackable filesystems backing file helpers Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 02/12] fs: factor out backing_file_{read,write}_iter() helpers Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 03/12] fs: factor out backing_file_splice_{read,write}() helpers Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 04/12] fs: factor out backing_file_mmap() helper Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 05/12] fuse: factor out helper for FUSE_DEV_IOC_CLONE Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 06/12] fuse: introduce FUSE_PASSTHROUGH capability Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 07/12] fuse: pass optional backing_id in struct fuse_open_out Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 08/12] fuse: implement ioctls to manage backing files Amir Goldstein
2023-10-17  9:45   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 09/12] fuse: implement read/write passthrough Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:09 ` [PATCH v14 10/12] fuse: implement splice_{read/write} passthrough Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:09 ` [PATCH v14 11/12] fuse: implement passthrough for mmap Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:09 ` [PATCH v14 12/12] fuse: implement passthrough for readdir Amir Goldstein
2023-10-19 14:33 ` [PATCH v14 00/12] FUSE passthrough for file io Amir Goldstein
2023-10-30 10:16   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-10-31 10:28     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-31 11:16       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-10-31 12:31         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-31 15:01           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-10-31 17:44             ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-01 11:32               ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-01 13:23                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-01 14:42                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-01 15:06                     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-01 15:25                       ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2023-11-01 18:32                         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-02 10:46                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-02 13:07                             ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-02 13:13                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-01-26 12:13                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-29  7:25                     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-29 14:13                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-29 15:06                         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-29 15:21                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-29 15:52                             ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-29 16:55                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-29 17:39                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-29 20:46                                   ` Bernd Schubert
2023-11-29 21:39                                     ` Antonio SJ Musumeci
2023-11-29 22:01                                       ` Bernd Schubert
2023-11-30  7:29                                         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-30  7:12                                       ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-30  8:17                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-06  9:59                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-12-06 23:11                                   ` Bernd Schubert
2023-12-07  7:23                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-12-07  8:56                                       ` Bernd Schubert

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