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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm>,
	Daniel Rosenberg <drosen@google.com>,
	 Paul Lawrence <paullawrence@google.com>,
	Alessio Balsini <balsini@android.com>,
	 Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,  linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 00/12] FUSE passthrough for file io
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 11:16:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegtZGC93-ydnFEt1Gzk+Yy5peJ-osuZD8GRYV4c+WPu0EQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxh=cLySge6htd+DnJrqAKF=C_oJYfVrbpvQGik0wR-+iw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 at 16:33, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:

> generic/120 tests -o noatime and fails because atime is
> updated (on the backing file).
> This is a general FUSE issue and passthrough_hp --nocache fails
> the same test (i.e. it only passed because of attribute cache).
>
> generic/080, generic/215 both test for c/mtime updates after mapped writes.
> It is not surprising that backing file passthrough fails these tests -
> there is no "passthrough getattr" like overlayfs and there is no opportunity
> to invalidate the FUSE inode attribute cache.

This is what POSIX has to say:

"The last data modification and last file status change timestamps of
a file that is mapped with MAP_SHARED and PROT_WRITE shall be marked
for update at some point in the interval between a write reference to
the mapped region and the next call to msync() with MS_ASYNC or
MS_SYNC for that portion of the file by any process. If there is no
such call and if the underlying file is modified as a result of a
write reference, then these timestamps shall be marked for update at
some time after the write reference."

Not sure if the test is doing msync(), but invalidating cached c/mtime
on msync() shouldn't be too hard (msync -> fsync).

While the standard doesn't seem to require updating c/mtime on
mumap(2) if there was a modification, that might also make sense in
practice.

Thanks,
Miklos

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-30 10:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-16 16:08 [PATCH v14 00/12] FUSE passthrough for file io Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 01/12] fs: prepare for stackable filesystems backing file helpers Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 02/12] fs: factor out backing_file_{read,write}_iter() helpers Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 03/12] fs: factor out backing_file_splice_{read,write}() helpers Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 04/12] fs: factor out backing_file_mmap() helper Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 05/12] fuse: factor out helper for FUSE_DEV_IOC_CLONE Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 06/12] fuse: introduce FUSE_PASSTHROUGH capability Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 07/12] fuse: pass optional backing_id in struct fuse_open_out Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 08/12] fuse: implement ioctls to manage backing files Amir Goldstein
2023-10-17  9:45   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 09/12] fuse: implement read/write passthrough Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:09 ` [PATCH v14 10/12] fuse: implement splice_{read/write} passthrough Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:09 ` [PATCH v14 11/12] fuse: implement passthrough for mmap Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:09 ` [PATCH v14 12/12] fuse: implement passthrough for readdir Amir Goldstein
2023-10-19 14:33 ` [PATCH v14 00/12] FUSE passthrough for file io Amir Goldstein
2023-10-30 10:16   ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2023-10-31 10:28     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-31 11:16       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-10-31 12:31         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-31 15:01           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-10-31 17:44             ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-01 11:32               ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-01 13:23                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-01 14:42                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-01 15:06                     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-01 15:25                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-01 18:32                         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-02 10:46                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-02 13:07                             ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-02 13:13                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-01-26 12:13                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-29  7:25                     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-29 14:13                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-29 15:06                         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-29 15:21                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-29 15:52                             ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-29 16:55                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-29 17:39                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-29 20:46                                   ` Bernd Schubert
2023-11-29 21:39                                     ` Antonio SJ Musumeci
2023-11-29 22:01                                       ` Bernd Schubert
2023-11-30  7:29                                         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-30  7:12                                       ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-30  8:17                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-06  9:59                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-12-06 23:11                                   ` Bernd Schubert
2023-12-07  7:23                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-12-07  8:56                                       ` Bernd Schubert

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