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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm>,
	Daniel Rosenberg <drosen@google.com>,
	 Paul Lawrence <paullawrence@google.com>,
	Alessio Balsini <balsini@android.com>,
	 Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,  linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 00/12] FUSE passthrough for file io
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 17:06:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxjEHEsBr5OgvrKNAsEeH_VUTZ-Cho2bYVPYzj_uBLLp2A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegsoz12HRBeXzjX+x37fSdzedshOMYbcWS1QtG4add6Nfg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 4:14 PM Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 08:25, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > My proposed solution is to change the semantics with the init flag
> > FUSE_PASSTHROUGH to disallow mmap on FOPEN_DIRECT_IO
> > files.
>
> Why?  FOPEN_DIRECT_IO and FUSE_PASSTHROUGH should mix much more
> readily than FOPEN_DIRECT_IO with page cache.
>

Am I misunderstanding how mmap works with FOPEN_DIRECT_IO file?
My understanding is that mmap of FOPEN_DIRECT_IO reads/writes
from page cache of fuse inode.

To clarify, the plan is to never allow mixing open of passthrough and
cached files on the same inode.

It is allowed to open FOPEN_DIRECT_IO file for inode either in cached
or passthrough mode, but it is NOT allowed to mmap a FOPEN_DIRECT_IO
file for inode in passthrough mode.

However, if inode only has file open in FOPEN_DIRECT_IO mode, then inode
mode is neutral. If we allow mmap in this state then a later open in passthourgh
mode and mmap in passthrough mode will collide with the direct mode mmap.

Therefore, my proposal is than when filesystem is FUSE_PASSTHROUGH capable,
only passthrough file and cached file may be mmaped, but never allow to
mmap a FOPEN_DIRECT_IO file.

Does that make sense?


> > So with a filesystem that supports FUSE_PASSTHROUGH,
> > FOPEN_DIRECT_IO files can only be used for direct read/write io and
> > mmap maps either the fuse inode pages or the backing inode pages.
> >
> > This also means that FUSE_DIRECT_IO_RELAX conflicts with
> > FUSE_PASSTHROUGH.
> >
> > Should we also deny mixing FUSE_HAS_INODE_DAX with
> > FUSE_PASSTHROUGH? Anything else from virtiofs?
>
> Virtiofs/DAX and passthrough are similar features in totally different
> environments.   We just need to make sure the code paths don't
> collide.
>
> > While I have your attention, I am trying to consolidate the validation
> > of FOPEN_ mode vs inode state into fuse_finish_open().
> >
> > What do you think about this partial patch that also moves
> > fuse_finish_open() to after fuse_release_nowrite().
> > Is it legit?
>
> I suspect it won't work due to the i_size reset being in
> fuse_finish_open().  But I feel there's not enough context to
> understand why this is needed.
>

the re-order of fuse_finish_open() and fuse_release_nowrite() is not
needed - it just makes the code a little cleaner.

I will try without reorder.

Thanks,
Amir.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-29 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-16 16:08 [PATCH v14 00/12] FUSE passthrough for file io Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 01/12] fs: prepare for stackable filesystems backing file helpers Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 02/12] fs: factor out backing_file_{read,write}_iter() helpers Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 03/12] fs: factor out backing_file_splice_{read,write}() helpers Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 04/12] fs: factor out backing_file_mmap() helper Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 05/12] fuse: factor out helper for FUSE_DEV_IOC_CLONE Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 06/12] fuse: introduce FUSE_PASSTHROUGH capability Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 07/12] fuse: pass optional backing_id in struct fuse_open_out Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 08/12] fuse: implement ioctls to manage backing files Amir Goldstein
2023-10-17  9:45   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:08 ` [PATCH v14 09/12] fuse: implement read/write passthrough Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:09 ` [PATCH v14 10/12] fuse: implement splice_{read/write} passthrough Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:09 ` [PATCH v14 11/12] fuse: implement passthrough for mmap Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 16:09 ` [PATCH v14 12/12] fuse: implement passthrough for readdir Amir Goldstein
2023-10-19 14:33 ` [PATCH v14 00/12] FUSE passthrough for file io Amir Goldstein
2023-10-30 10:16   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-10-31 10:28     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-31 11:16       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-10-31 12:31         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-31 15:01           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-10-31 17:44             ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-01 11:32               ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-01 13:23                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-01 14:42                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-01 15:06                     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-01 15:25                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-01 18:32                         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-02 10:46                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-02 13:07                             ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-02 13:13                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-01-26 12:13                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-29  7:25                     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-29 14:13                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-29 15:06                         ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2023-11-29 15:21                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-29 15:52                             ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-29 16:55                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-29 17:39                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-29 20:46                                   ` Bernd Schubert
2023-11-29 21:39                                     ` Antonio SJ Musumeci
2023-11-29 22:01                                       ` Bernd Schubert
2023-11-30  7:29                                         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-30  7:12                                       ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-30  8:17                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-06  9:59                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-12-06 23:11                                   ` Bernd Schubert
2023-12-07  7:23                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-12-07  8:56                                       ` Bernd Schubert

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