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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: "Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"Jerome Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] mm: Check if mmu notifier callbacks are allowed to fail
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 14:15:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKMK7uGViQT5HPEQzFsAT85gdCr-gw94EB5fMT9eXRBAXambWg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181123124358.GJ8625@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 1:43 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Fri 23-11-18 13:30:57, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 12:15:57PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Thu 22-11-18 17:51:04, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > > Just a bit of paranoia, since if we start pushing this deep into
> > > > callchains it's hard to spot all places where an mmu notifier
> > > > implementation might fail when it's not allowed to.
> > >
> > > What does WARN give you more than the existing pr_info? Is really
> > > backtrace that interesting?
> >
> > Automated tools have to ignore everything at info level (there's too much
> > of that). I guess I could do something like
> >
> > if (blockable)
> >       pr_warn(...)
> > else
> >       pr_info(...)
> >
> > WARN() is simply my goto tool for getting something at warning level
> > dumped into dmesg. But I think the pr_warn with the callback function
> > should be enough indeed.
>
> I wouldn't mind s@pr_info@pr_warn@

Well that's too much, because then it would misfire in the oom
testcase, where failing is ok (desireble even, we want to avoid
blocking after all). So needs to be  a switch (or else we need to
filter it in results, and that's a bit a maintenance headache from a
CI pov).
-Danile

> > If you wonder where all the info level stuff happens that we have to
> > ignore: suspend/resume is a primary culprit (fairly important for
> > gfx/desktops), but there's a bunch of other places. Even if we ignore
> > everything at info and below we still need filters because some drivers
> > are a bit too trigger-happy (i915 definitely included I guess, so everyone
> > contributes to this problem).
>
> Thanks for the clarification.
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs



-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
+41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch

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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: "Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Jerome Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] mm: Check if mmu notifier callbacks are allowed to fail
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 14:15:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKMK7uGViQT5HPEQzFsAT85gdCr-gw94EB5fMT9eXRBAXambWg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181123124358.GJ8625@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 1:43 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Fri 23-11-18 13:30:57, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 12:15:57PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Thu 22-11-18 17:51:04, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > > Just a bit of paranoia, since if we start pushing this deep into
> > > > callchains it's hard to spot all places where an mmu notifier
> > > > implementation might fail when it's not allowed to.
> > >
> > > What does WARN give you more than the existing pr_info? Is really
> > > backtrace that interesting?
> >
> > Automated tools have to ignore everything at info level (there's too much
> > of that). I guess I could do something like
> >
> > if (blockable)
> >       pr_warn(...)
> > else
> >       pr_info(...)
> >
> > WARN() is simply my goto tool for getting something at warning level
> > dumped into dmesg. But I think the pr_warn with the callback function
> > should be enough indeed.
>
> I wouldn't mind s@pr_info@pr_warn@

Well that's too much, because then it would misfire in the oom
testcase, where failing is ok (desireble even, we want to avoid
blocking after all). So needs to be  a switch (or else we need to
filter it in results, and that's a bit a maintenance headache from a
CI pov).
-Danile

> > If you wonder where all the info level stuff happens that we have to
> > ignore: suspend/resume is a primary culprit (fairly important for
> > gfx/desktops), but there's a bunch of other places. Even if we ignore
> > everything at info and below we still need filters because some drivers
> > are a bit too trigger-happy (i915 definitely included I guess, so everyone
> > contributes to this problem).
>
> Thanks for the clarification.
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs



-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
+41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-23 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-22 16:51 [PATCH 0/3] RFC: mmu notifier debug checks Daniel Vetter
2018-11-22 16:51 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: Check if mmu notifier callbacks are allowed to fail Daniel Vetter
2018-11-22 16:53   ` [Intel-gfx] " Chris Wilson
2018-11-22 16:53     ` Chris Wilson
2018-11-22 16:53     ` [Intel-gfx] " Chris Wilson
2018-11-23  8:49     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-23 11:14       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-22 18:50   ` Koenig, Christian
2018-11-22 18:50     ` Koenig, Christian
2018-11-23 11:15   ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-23 11:15     ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-23 11:15     ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-23 12:30     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-23 12:30       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-23 12:30       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-23 12:43       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-23 13:15         ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2018-11-23 13:15           ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-23 13:30           ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-22 16:51 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm, notifier: Catch sleeping/blocking for !blockable Daniel Vetter
2018-11-22 18:55   ` Koenig, Christian
2018-11-22 18:55     ` Koenig, Christian
2018-11-23  8:46     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-23  8:46       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-23  8:46       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-23 10:14       ` Christian König
2018-11-23 11:12   ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-23 11:12     ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-23 12:38     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-23 12:38       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-23 12:46       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-23 13:12         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-23 13:12           ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-23 13:23           ` [Intel-gfx] " Tvrtko Ursulin
2018-11-22 16:51 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm, notifier: Add a lockdep map for invalidate_range_start Daniel Vetter
2018-11-22 16:51   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-27  7:49   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-27  7:49     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-27  7:49     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-27 16:49     ` [Intel-gfx] " Chris Wilson
2018-11-27 16:49       ` Chris Wilson
2018-11-27 17:28       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-27 17:28         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-27 17:33         ` [Intel-gfx] " Chris Wilson
2018-11-27 17:33           ` Chris Wilson
2018-11-27 17:39           ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2018-11-27 17:39             ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-27 17:39             ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-22 18:09 ` ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for RFC: mmu notifier debug checks Patchwork
2018-11-22 18:26 ` ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2018-11-23  0:27 ` ✗ Fi.CI.IGT: failure " Patchwork

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