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From: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
To: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Cc: Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <vireshk@kernel.org>,  Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>, Nikunj Kela <nkela@quicinc.com>,
	 Prasad Sodagudi <psodagud@quicinc.com>,
	Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
	 linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	 Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	 devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/16] dt-bindings: firmware: arm,scmi: Extend bindings for protocol@13
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 11:39:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDyKFoiL47wadabh1jcOr4q4uwJm1UyhHHMnmVcys=bBBVcXQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230615084430.boamsz56kqqi3n6h@bogus>

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 at 10:44, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2023 at 02:46:21PM +0200, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> > The protocol@13 node is describing the performance scaling option for the
> > ARM SCMI interface, as a clock provider. This is unnecessary limiting, as
> > performance scaling is in many cases not limited to switching a clock's
> > frequency.
> >
> > Therefore, let's extend the binding so the interface can be modelled as a
> > generic "performance domain" too. The common way to describe this, is to
> > use the "power-domain" bindings, so let's use that.
> >
> > Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> > Cc: Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>
> > Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> > Signed-off-by: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/firmware/arm,scmi.yaml | 4 ++--
> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/firmware/arm,scmi.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/firmware/arm,scmi.yaml
> > index 5824c43e9893..cff9d1e4cea1 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/firmware/arm,scmi.yaml
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/firmware/arm,scmi.yaml
> > @@ -145,8 +145,8 @@ properties:
> >        '#clock-cells':
> >          const: 1
> >
> > -    required:
> > -      - '#clock-cells'
>
> I am yet to look at the patches, just looked at this binding changes for now.
>
> Won't this break compatibility with existing DTBs. IMO, this is strict
> no no, you can't drop #clock-cells. I wanted to add performance-domains
> here as alternative but decided to not as I knew you were working on this.

Thanks for reviewing!

The point with the suggested change was to allow any kind of
combination of using #clock-cells and/or #power-domain-cells. Honestly
I didn't really know how to best express that in the binding, but
maybe someone can help me out here?

I think enforcing #clock-cells to be used is unnecessary. Making it
optional should not break existing DTBs, right?

Moreover, currently it seems to be only Juno that uses "protocol@13"
and the "#clock-cells" (at least by looking at the DTSes in-kernel).
So, I wonder if it's really such a big deal to update the DT bindings
for "protocol@13" at this point, but I may not have the complete
picture.

Kind regards
Uffe

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From: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
To: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Cc: Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <vireshk@kernel.org>, Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>, Nikunj Kela <nkela@quicinc.com>,
	Prasad Sodagudi <psodagud@quicinc.com>,
	Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/16] dt-bindings: firmware: arm,scmi: Extend bindings for protocol@13
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 11:39:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDyKFoiL47wadabh1jcOr4q4uwJm1UyhHHMnmVcys=bBBVcXQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230615084430.boamsz56kqqi3n6h@bogus>

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 at 10:44, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2023 at 02:46:21PM +0200, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> > The protocol@13 node is describing the performance scaling option for the
> > ARM SCMI interface, as a clock provider. This is unnecessary limiting, as
> > performance scaling is in many cases not limited to switching a clock's
> > frequency.
> >
> > Therefore, let's extend the binding so the interface can be modelled as a
> > generic "performance domain" too. The common way to describe this, is to
> > use the "power-domain" bindings, so let's use that.
> >
> > Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> > Cc: Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>
> > Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> > Signed-off-by: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/firmware/arm,scmi.yaml | 4 ++--
> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/firmware/arm,scmi.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/firmware/arm,scmi.yaml
> > index 5824c43e9893..cff9d1e4cea1 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/firmware/arm,scmi.yaml
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/firmware/arm,scmi.yaml
> > @@ -145,8 +145,8 @@ properties:
> >        '#clock-cells':
> >          const: 1
> >
> > -    required:
> > -      - '#clock-cells'
>
> I am yet to look at the patches, just looked at this binding changes for now.
>
> Won't this break compatibility with existing DTBs. IMO, this is strict
> no no, you can't drop #clock-cells. I wanted to add performance-domains
> here as alternative but decided to not as I knew you were working on this.

Thanks for reviewing!

The point with the suggested change was to allow any kind of
combination of using #clock-cells and/or #power-domain-cells. Honestly
I didn't really know how to best express that in the binding, but
maybe someone can help me out here?

I think enforcing #clock-cells to be used is unnecessary. Making it
optional should not break existing DTBs, right?

Moreover, currently it seems to be only Juno that uses "protocol@13"
and the "#clock-cells" (at least by looking at the DTSes in-kernel).
So, I wonder if it's really such a big deal to update the DT bindings
for "protocol@13" at this point, but I may not have the complete
picture.

Kind regards
Uffe

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-15  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-07 12:46 [PATCH 00/16] arm_scmi/opp/dvfs: Add generic performance scaling support Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 01/16] firmware: arm_scmi: Extend perf protocol ops to get number of domains Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 02/16] firmware: arm_scmi: Extend perf protocol ops to get the name of a domain Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 03/16] firmware: arm_scmi: Extend perf protocol ops to inform of set level support Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 04/16] cpufreq: scmi: Prepare to move OF parsing of domain-id to cpufreq Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 05/16] firmware: arm_scmi: Align perf ops to use domain-id as in-parameter Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 06/16] firmware: arm_scmi: Drop redundant ->device_domain_id() from perf ops Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 07/16] cpufreq: scmi: Avoid one OF parsing in scmi_get_sharing_cpus() Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 08/16] PM: domains: Allow genpd providers to manage OPP tables directly by its FW Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 09/16] dt-bindings: firmware: arm,scmi: Extend bindings for protocol@13 Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-14 23:00   ` Rob Herring
2023-06-14 23:00     ` Rob Herring
2023-06-15  9:10     ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-15  9:10       ` Ulf Hansson
2023-07-14 17:14       ` Rob Herring
2023-07-14 17:14         ` Rob Herring
2023-07-15 12:35         ` Ulf Hansson
2023-07-15 12:35           ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-15  8:44   ` Sudeep Holla
2023-06-15  8:44     ` Sudeep Holla
2023-06-15  9:39     ` Ulf Hansson [this message]
2023-06-15  9:39       ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-15 13:30       ` Sudeep Holla
2023-06-15 13:30         ` Sudeep Holla
2023-06-16 11:48         ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-16 11:48           ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 10/16] firmware: arm_scmi: Add the SCMI performance domain Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 11/16] OPP: Add dev_pm_opp_add_dynamic() to allow more flexibility Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-08  5:29   ` Viresh Kumar
2023-06-08  5:29     ` Viresh Kumar
2023-06-08  8:59     ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-08  8:59       ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-08  9:22       ` Viresh Kumar
2023-06-08  9:22         ` Viresh Kumar
2023-06-08  9:40         ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-08  9:40           ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 12/16] OPP: Extend dev_pm_opp_data with performance level Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 13/16] OPP: Extend dev_pm_opp_data with OPP provider support Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-08  5:34   ` Viresh Kumar
2023-06-08  5:34     ` Viresh Kumar
2023-06-08  9:37     ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-08  9:37       ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-08 10:45       ` Viresh Kumar
2023-06-08 10:45         ` Viresh Kumar
2023-06-08 11:45         ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-08 11:45           ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-09  5:10           ` Viresh Kumar
2023-06-09  5:10             ` Viresh Kumar
2023-06-09 10:59             ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-09 10:59               ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 14/16] firmware: arm_scmi: Simplify error path in scmi_dvfs_device_opps_add() Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 15/16] firmware: arm_scmi: Extend perf support with OPP from genpd providers Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46 ` [PATCH 16/16] firmware: arm_scmi: Add generic OPP support to the SCMI performance domain Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 12:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-07 14:43 ` [PATCH 00/16] arm_scmi/opp/dvfs: Add generic performance scaling support Cristian Marussi
2023-06-07 14:43   ` Cristian Marussi
2023-06-08  9:53   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-06-08  9:53     ` Ulf Hansson

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