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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Maling list - DRI developers" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@mellanox.com>,
	"Ben Skeggs" <bskeggs@redhat.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/22] mm: export alloc_pages_vma
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:24:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4h9+Ha4FVrvDAe-YAr1wBOjc4yi7CAzVuASv=JCxPcFaw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190620191733.GH12083@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 12:17 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu 13-06-19 11:43:08, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > noveau is currently using this through an odd hmm wrapper, and I plan
> > to switch it to the real thing later in this series.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
> > ---
> >  mm/mempolicy.c | 1 +
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/mempolicy.c b/mm/mempolicy.c
> > index 01600d80ae01..f9023b5fba37 100644
> > --- a/mm/mempolicy.c
> > +++ b/mm/mempolicy.c
> > @@ -2098,6 +2098,7 @@ alloc_pages_vma(gfp_t gfp, int order, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> >  out:
> >       return page;
> >  }
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(alloc_pages_vma);
>
> All allocator exported symbols are EXPORT_SYMBOL, what is a reason to
> have this one special?

I asked for this simply because it was not exported historically. In
general I want to establish explicit export-type criteria so the
community can spend less time debating when to use EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL
[1].

The thought in this instance is that it is not historically exported
to modules and it is safer from a maintenance perspective to start
with GPL-only for new symbols in case we don't want to maintain that
interface long-term for out-of-tree modules.

Yes, we always reserve the right to remove / change interfaces
regardless of the export type, but history has shown that external
pressure to keep an interface stable (contrary to
Documentation/process/stable-api-nonsense.rst) tends to be less for
GPL-only exports.

[1]: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-discuss/2018-September/005688.html
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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@mellanox.com>,
	"Ben Skeggs" <bskeggs@redhat.com>,
	"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Maling list - DRI developers" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/22] mm: export alloc_pages_vma
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:24:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4h9+Ha4FVrvDAe-YAr1wBOjc4yi7CAzVuASv=JCxPcFaw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190620191733.GH12083@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 12:17 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu 13-06-19 11:43:08, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > noveau is currently using this through an odd hmm wrapper, and I plan
> > to switch it to the real thing later in this series.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
> > ---
> >  mm/mempolicy.c | 1 +
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/mempolicy.c b/mm/mempolicy.c
> > index 01600d80ae01..f9023b5fba37 100644
> > --- a/mm/mempolicy.c
> > +++ b/mm/mempolicy.c
> > @@ -2098,6 +2098,7 @@ alloc_pages_vma(gfp_t gfp, int order, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> >  out:
> >       return page;
> >  }
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(alloc_pages_vma);
>
> All allocator exported symbols are EXPORT_SYMBOL, what is a reason to
> have this one special?

I asked for this simply because it was not exported historically. In
general I want to establish explicit export-type criteria so the
community can spend less time debating when to use EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL
[1].

The thought in this instance is that it is not historically exported
to modules and it is safer from a maintenance perspective to start
with GPL-only for new symbols in case we don't want to maintain that
interface long-term for out-of-tree modules.

Yes, we always reserve the right to remove / change interfaces
regardless of the export type, but history has shown that external
pressure to keep an interface stable (contrary to
Documentation/process/stable-api-nonsense.rst) tends to be less for
GPL-only exports.

[1]: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-discuss/2018-September/005688.html

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-24 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 254+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-13  9:43 dev_pagemap related cleanups Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 01/22] mm: remove the unused ARCH_HAS_HMM_DEVICE Kconfig option Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 18:30   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 18:30     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 18:30     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 02/22] mm: remove the struct hmm_device infrastructure Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 18:46   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 18:46     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 18:46     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 23:06   ` [Nouveau] " John Hubbard
2019-06-13 23:06     ` John Hubbard
2019-06-13 23:06     ` [Nouveau] " John Hubbard
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 03/22] mm: remove hmm_devmem_add_resource Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 18:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 18:52     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-14  6:19     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  0:54   ` [Nouveau] " John Hubbard
2019-06-14  0:54     ` John Hubbard
2019-06-14  0:54     ` [Nouveau] " John Hubbard
2019-06-20 19:32   ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 04/22] mm: don't clear ->mapping in hmm_devmem_free Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 19:05   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-14  6:21     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:21       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  1:46   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-14  1:46     ` John Hubbard
2019-06-14  1:46     ` John Hubbard
2019-06-20 19:36   ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-20 19:36     ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 05/22] mm: export alloc_pages_vma Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  1:47   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-14  1:47     ` John Hubbard
2019-06-14  1:47     ` John Hubbard
2019-06-14  6:23     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-20 19:17   ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-24 18:24     ` Dan Williams [this message]
2019-06-24 18:24       ` Dan Williams
2019-06-25  7:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25  7:23         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 15:00         ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-25 15:00           ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-25 18:03           ` Dan Williams
2019-06-25 18:03             ` Dan Williams
2019-06-25 19:00             ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-25 19:00               ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-25 19:52               ` Dan Williams
2019-06-25 19:52                 ` Dan Williams
2019-06-26  5:46                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-26  5:46                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-26  5:46                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-26 16:14                   ` Dan Williams
2019-06-27  6:41                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-27  6:41                       ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-27  6:41                       ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 06/22] mm: factor out a devm_request_free_mem_region helper Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 19:16   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:16     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-14  6:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:24       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-15  2:21   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-15  2:21     ` John Hubbard
2019-06-15  2:21     ` John Hubbard
2019-06-15 14:30     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-15 14:30       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 07/22] memremap: move dev_pagemap callbacks into a separate structure Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 19:18   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:18     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:18     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:14   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:14     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 08/22] memremap: pass a struct dev_pagemap to ->kill Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 19:26   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:26     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:12   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:12     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:12     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:15     ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13 20:15       ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 09/22] memremap: lift the devmap_enable manipulation into devm_memremap_pages Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 19:34   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:34     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:34     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:13     ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13 20:13       ` Dan Williams
2019-06-14  6:28     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:28       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:28       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 10/22] memremap: add a migrate callback to struct dev_pagemap_ops Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 23:42   ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-13 23:42     ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-13 23:42     ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-14  6:33     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 11/22] memremap: remove the data field in struct dev_pagemap Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 19:37   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:37     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:37     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 12/22] memremap: provide an optional internal refcount " Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 13/22] device-dax: use the dev_pagemap internal refcount Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  0:22   ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-14  0:22     ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-14  0:22     ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-14  6:35     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:35       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 14/22] nouveau: use alloc_page_vma directly Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 19:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 15/22] nouveau: use devm_memremap_pages directly Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 16/22] mm: remove hmm_vma_alloc_locked_page Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 17/22] mm: remove hmm_devmem_add Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 19:42   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:42     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-14  6:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 18/22] mm: mark DEVICE_PUBLIC as broken Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 19:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:44     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:44     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:53     ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-13 19:53       ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-13 19:58       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:58         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:58         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-14  0:43         ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-14  0:43           ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-14  0:43           ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-14  1:23           ` John Hubbard
2019-06-14  1:23             ` John Hubbard
2019-06-14  1:23             ` John Hubbard
2019-06-19 19:27             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-19 19:27               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-19 19:46               ` Dan Williams
2019-06-19 19:46                 ` Dan Williams
2019-06-26  3:15               ` John Hubbard
2019-06-26  3:15                 ` John Hubbard
2019-06-26  3:15                 ` John Hubbard
2019-06-26  5:45                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-26  5:45                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-26  5:45                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-26  6:07                   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-26  6:07                     ` John Hubbard
2019-06-14  6:43           ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:43             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-20 19:26   ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-25  7:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 11:44       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-25 11:44         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-25 11:44         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-25 11:59         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 19/22] mm: simplify ZONE_DEVICE page private data Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 20/22] mm: sort out the DEVICE_PRIVATE Kconfig mess Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 19:55   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 19:55     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 21/22] mm: remove the HMM config option Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 20:01   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:01     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-14  6:47     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:47       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:47       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43 ` [PATCH 22/22] mm: don't select MIGRATE_VMA_HELPER from HMM_MIRROR Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 20:04   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:04     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:04     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-14  1:53   ` [Nouveau] " John Hubbard
2019-06-14  1:53     ` John Hubbard
2019-06-14  1:53     ` John Hubbard
2019-06-14  6:48     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:48       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 14:16 ` dev_pagemap related cleanups Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 14:16   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-14  6:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 18:27 ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13 18:27   ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13 18:27   ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13 20:17   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:17     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:21     ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13 20:24       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:24         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:48         ` Andrew Morton
2019-06-13 20:48           ` Andrew Morton
2019-06-13 20:48           ` Andrew Morton
2019-06-13 20:40   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:40     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 20:40     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 21:21     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 21:21       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-13 23:10       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 23:10         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 23:10         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-14  6:14         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:14           ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:14           ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  0:31     ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-14  0:31       ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-14  0:31       ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-14  6:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-14  6:13     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-15  1:14     ` Dan Williams
2019-06-15  1:14       ` Dan Williams
2019-06-15  8:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-15  8:33         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-15  8:33         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-15 18:09         ` Dan Williams
2019-06-15 18:09           ` Dan Williams
2019-06-15 18:09           ` Dan Williams

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