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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
	Thomas Meyer <thomas@m3y3r.de>,
	Shawn Starr <shawn.starr@rogers.com>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [3.9-rc1] irq 16: nobody cared  (was [3.9-rc1] very poor interrupt responses)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:10:36 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1303141151480.1983-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1303141634440.30118@pobox.suse.cz>

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013, Jiri Kosina wrote:

> I have reverted all three commits, and the "nobody cared" is still there. 
> 
> > If you revert all three and still see the problem then it must be
> > caused by changes outside of the USB stack.  Differences in interrupt
> > routing could be a result of changes to PCI or ACPI.  Have you compared 
> > the current /proc/interrupts with versions from earlier kernels without 
> > this problem?
> 
> The diff of stripped-down (without CPU statistics) /proc/interrupts from 
> some oldish working 3.1 and the current tree:
> 
> --- /tmp/interrupts-old.txt	2013-03-14 16:30:46.938710286 +0100
> +++ /tmp/interrupts-new.txt	2013-03-14 16:30:18.954571413 +0100
> @@ -3,27 +3,28 @@
>    8:IO-APIC-edge      rtc0
>    9:IO-APIC-fasteoi   acpi
>   12:IO-APIC-edge      i8042
> - 16:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb6
> - 17:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb7
> - 18:IO-APIC-fasteoi   ata_generic, uhci_hcd:usb8
> - 19:IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb2
> - 20:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb3
> - 21:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb4
> - 22:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb5
> - 23:IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb1
> + 16:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb4
> + 17:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb5
> + 18:IO-APIC-fasteoi   ata_generic, uhci_hcd:usb6
> + 19:IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb8
> + 20:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb1
> + 21:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb2
> + 22:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb3
> + 23:IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb7, i801_smbus
>   40:PCI-MSI-edge      PCIe PME
>   41:PCI-MSI-edge      PCIe PME
>   42:PCI-MSI-edge      PCIe PME
>   43:PCI-MSI-edge      ahci
>   44:PCI-MSI-edge      i915
>   45:PCI-MSI-edge      eth0
> - 46:PCI-MSI-edge      iwlagn
> + 46:PCI-MSI-edge      iwlwifi
>   47:PCI-MSI-edge      snd_hda_intel
>  NMI:Non-maskable interrupts
>  LOC:Local timer interrupts
>  SPU:Spurious interrupts
>  PMI:Performance monitoring interrupts
>  IWI:IRQ work interrupts
> +RTR:APIC ICR read retries
>  RES:Rescheduling interrupts
>  CAL:Function call interrupts
>  TLB:TLB shootdowns
> 
> IRQ16 is routed differently (usb4 vs usb6), so that might be relevant.

It looks like the order of probing changed.  The old kernel did 
ehci-hcd before uhci-hcd and the new kernel did them in the opposite 
order.  Consequently usb3-usb8 in the old kernel (the UHCI devices) are 
the same as usb1-usb6 in the new kernel.  Likewise, usb1-usb2 in the 
old kernel are usb7-usb8 in the new kernel.

In fact, the only major difference appears to be i801_smbus on IRQ 23.  
It's hard to see how that could have any effect.

> > Is occurrence of the "nobody cared" connected with any particular 
> > device?  Somebody reported a similar problem not long ago (although IIRC 
> > it was for OHCI rather than UHCI) which appeared to be related to 
> > activity on the built-in webcam.
> 
> Will check this. No external devices are plugged in, I think the only 
> internal one it has is bluetooth chip. I'll try turning it off.

All right.

One other thing you could try: Transplant the entire uhci-hcd driver 
from 3.1 (or whatever) into 3.9-rc1.  It should go okay -- you may have 
to apply by hand the appropriate parts of commits bc677d5b6464, 
90ab5ee94171, and 9ffc93f203c1.

Alan Stern

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
	Thomas Meyer <thomas@m3y3r.de>,
	Shawn Starr <shawn.starr@rogers.com>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>, <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [3.9-rc1] irq 16: nobody cared  (was [3.9-rc1] very poor interrupt responses)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:10:36 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1303141151480.1983-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1303141634440.30118@pobox.suse.cz>

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013, Jiri Kosina wrote:

> I have reverted all three commits, and the "nobody cared" is still there. 
> 
> > If you revert all three and still see the problem then it must be
> > caused by changes outside of the USB stack.  Differences in interrupt
> > routing could be a result of changes to PCI or ACPI.  Have you compared 
> > the current /proc/interrupts with versions from earlier kernels without 
> > this problem?
> 
> The diff of stripped-down (without CPU statistics) /proc/interrupts from 
> some oldish working 3.1 and the current tree:
> 
> --- /tmp/interrupts-old.txt	2013-03-14 16:30:46.938710286 +0100
> +++ /tmp/interrupts-new.txt	2013-03-14 16:30:18.954571413 +0100
> @@ -3,27 +3,28 @@
>    8:IO-APIC-edge      rtc0
>    9:IO-APIC-fasteoi   acpi
>   12:IO-APIC-edge      i8042
> - 16:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb6
> - 17:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb7
> - 18:IO-APIC-fasteoi   ata_generic, uhci_hcd:usb8
> - 19:IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb2
> - 20:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb3
> - 21:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb4
> - 22:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb5
> - 23:IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb1
> + 16:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb4
> + 17:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb5
> + 18:IO-APIC-fasteoi   ata_generic, uhci_hcd:usb6
> + 19:IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb8
> + 20:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb1
> + 21:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb2
> + 22:IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb3
> + 23:IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb7, i801_smbus
>   40:PCI-MSI-edge      PCIe PME
>   41:PCI-MSI-edge      PCIe PME
>   42:PCI-MSI-edge      PCIe PME
>   43:PCI-MSI-edge      ahci
>   44:PCI-MSI-edge      i915
>   45:PCI-MSI-edge      eth0
> - 46:PCI-MSI-edge      iwlagn
> + 46:PCI-MSI-edge      iwlwifi
>   47:PCI-MSI-edge      snd_hda_intel
>  NMI:Non-maskable interrupts
>  LOC:Local timer interrupts
>  SPU:Spurious interrupts
>  PMI:Performance monitoring interrupts
>  IWI:IRQ work interrupts
> +RTR:APIC ICR read retries
>  RES:Rescheduling interrupts
>  CAL:Function call interrupts
>  TLB:TLB shootdowns
> 
> IRQ16 is routed differently (usb4 vs usb6), so that might be relevant.

It looks like the order of probing changed.  The old kernel did 
ehci-hcd before uhci-hcd and the new kernel did them in the opposite 
order.  Consequently usb3-usb8 in the old kernel (the UHCI devices) are 
the same as usb1-usb6 in the new kernel.  Likewise, usb1-usb2 in the 
old kernel are usb7-usb8 in the new kernel.

In fact, the only major difference appears to be i801_smbus on IRQ 23.  
It's hard to see how that could have any effect.

> > Is occurrence of the "nobody cared" connected with any particular 
> > device?  Somebody reported a similar problem not long ago (although IIRC 
> > it was for OHCI rather than UHCI) which appeared to be related to 
> > activity on the built-in webcam.
> 
> Will check this. No external devices are plugged in, I think the only 
> internal one it has is bluetooth chip. I'll try turning it off.

All right.

One other thing you could try: Transplant the entire uhci-hcd driver 
from 3.1 (or whatever) into 3.9-rc1.  It should go okay -- you may have 
to apply by hand the appropriate parts of commits bc677d5b6464, 
90ab5ee94171, and 9ffc93f203c1.

Alan Stern


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-14 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-08 19:12 [3.9-rc1] very poor interrupt responses Shawn Starr
2013-03-08 21:33 ` [3.9-rc1] irq 16: nobody cared (was [3.9-rc1] very poor interrupt responses) Peter Hurley
2013-03-09  2:19   ` Alan Stern
2013-03-09  8:53     ` Thomas Meyer
2013-03-09 13:07       ` Peter Hurley
2013-03-13 21:35         ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-14 14:51           ` Alan Stern
2013-03-14 14:51             ` Alan Stern
2013-03-14 14:56             ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-14 15:18               ` Alan Stern
2013-03-14 15:18                 ` Alan Stern
2013-03-14 15:39                 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-14 15:47                   ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-14 16:10                   ` Alan Stern [this message]
2013-03-14 16:10                     ` Alan Stern
2013-03-14 16:13                   ` Alan Stern
2013-03-14 16:13                     ` Alan Stern
2013-03-14 16:09               ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-14 16:42                 ` Peter Hurley
2013-03-14 16:46                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-03-14 17:06                   ` Peter Hurley
2013-03-14 17:22                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-03-14 17:26                       ` Peter Hurley
2013-03-15  7:59                       ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-15  9:20                         ` Harald Arnesen
2013-03-15 13:33                           ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-15 13:33                             ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-15 15:14                             ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-15 19:14                               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-18  2:41                                 ` Shawn Starr
2013-03-18  9:12                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-18 18:57                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-18 22:05                                     ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-18 22:50                                       ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                   ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1303181010080.9529-ztGlSCb7Y1iN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-18 19:19                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2013-03-18 19:19                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2013-03-18 19:57                                       ` Chris Wilson
2013-03-18 22:04                                       ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-15 15:32                             ` Greg KH
2013-03-15 15:37                               ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-15 15:47                                 ` Greg KH
2013-03-15 16:21                                   ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-18  8:21                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2013-03-18 15:56                                     ` [PATCH] drm/i915: stop using GMBUS IRQs on Gen4 chips (was Re: [3.9-rc1] irq 16: nobody cared (was [3.9-rc1] very poor interrupt responses)) Jiri Kosina
2013-03-18 17:04                                       ` Chris Wilson
2013-03-19  8:56                                         ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-19  9:03                                           ` Chris Wilson
2013-03-18 19:21                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2013-03-18 11:13                             ` [PATCH] drm/i915: Flush writes to GMBUS registers Chris Wilson
2013-03-18 11:51                               ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-18 12:48                                 ` Chris Wilson
2013-03-14 18:48           ` [3.9-rc1] irq 16: nobody cared (was [3.9-rc1] very poor interrupt responses) Yinghai Lu
2013-03-11  3:38 ` [3.9-rc1] very poor interrupt responses Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-03-11 10:09   ` Harald Arnesen
2013-03-11 14:55     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-03-18  7:14 [3.9-rc1] irq 16: nobody cared (was [3.9-rc1] very poor interrupt responses) Thomas Meyer
2013-03-18  7:14 ` Thomas Meyer
2013-03-18  7:14 ` Thomas Meyer

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