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From: "Rakesh Pillai" <pillair@codeaurora.org>
To: "'Rajkumar Manoharan'" <rmanohar@codeaurora.org>
Cc: <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>, <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <kvalo@codeaurora.org>,
	<johannes@sipsolutions.net>, <davem@davemloft.net>,
	<kuba@kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	<dianders@chromium.org>, <evgreen@chromium.org>,
	<linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [RFC 2/7] ath10k: Add support to process rx packet in thread
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 23:55:06 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <003001d6611e$9afa0cc0$d0ee2640$@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13573549c277b34d4c87c471ff1a7060@codeaurora.org>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rajkumar Manoharan <rmanohar@codeaurora.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 3:23 AM
> To: Rakesh Pillai <pillair@codeaurora.org>
> Cc: ath10k@lists.infradead.org; linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org; linux-
> kernel@vger.kernel.org; kvalo@codeaurora.org; johannes@sipsolutions.net;
> davem@davemloft.net; kuba@kernel.org; netdev@vger.kernel.org;
> dianders@chromium.org; evgreen@chromium.org; linux-wireless-
> owner@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [RFC 2/7] ath10k: Add support to process rx packet in thread
> 
> On 2020-07-21 10:14, Rakesh Pillai wrote:
> > NAPI instance gets scheduled on a CPU core on which
> > the IRQ was triggered. The processing of rx packets
> > can be CPU intensive and since NAPI cannot be moved
> > to a different CPU core, to get better performance,
> > its better to move the gist of rx packet processing
> > in a high priority thread.
> >
> > Add the init/deinit part for a thread to process the
> > receive packets.
> >
> IMHO this defeat the whole purpose of NAPI. Originally in ath10k
> irq processing happened in tasklet (high priority) context which in
> turn push more data to net core even though net is unable to process
> driver data as both happen in different context (fast producer - slow
> consumer)
> issue. Why can't CPU governor schedule the interrupts in less loaded CPU
> core?
> Otherwise you can play with different RPS and affinity settings to meet
> your
> requirement.
> 
> IMO introducing high priority tasklets/threads is not viable solution.

Hi Rajkumar,
In linux, the IRQs are directed to the first core which is booted.
I see that all the IRQs are getting routed to CORE0 even if its heavily
loaded.

IRQ and NAPI are not under the scheduler's control, since it cannot be
moved.
NAPI is scheduled only on the same core as IRQ. But a thread can be moved
around by the scheduler based on the CPU load.
This is the reason I went ahead with using thread.

Affinity settings are static, and cannot be done runtime without any
downstream userspace entity.


> 
> -Rajkumar


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From: "Rakesh Pillai" <pillair@codeaurora.org>
To: 'Rajkumar Manoharan' <rmanohar@codeaurora.org>
Cc: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ath10k@lists.infradead.org, dianders@chromium.org,
	evgreen@chromium.org, kuba@kernel.org, johannes@sipsolutions.net,
	davem@davemloft.net, kvalo@codeaurora.org
Subject: RE: [RFC 2/7] ath10k: Add support to process rx packet in thread
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 23:55:06 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <003001d6611e$9afa0cc0$d0ee2640$@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13573549c277b34d4c87c471ff1a7060@codeaurora.org>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rajkumar Manoharan <rmanohar@codeaurora.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 3:23 AM
> To: Rakesh Pillai <pillair@codeaurora.org>
> Cc: ath10k@lists.infradead.org; linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org; linux-
> kernel@vger.kernel.org; kvalo@codeaurora.org; johannes@sipsolutions.net;
> davem@davemloft.net; kuba@kernel.org; netdev@vger.kernel.org;
> dianders@chromium.org; evgreen@chromium.org; linux-wireless-
> owner@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [RFC 2/7] ath10k: Add support to process rx packet in thread
> 
> On 2020-07-21 10:14, Rakesh Pillai wrote:
> > NAPI instance gets scheduled on a CPU core on which
> > the IRQ was triggered. The processing of rx packets
> > can be CPU intensive and since NAPI cannot be moved
> > to a different CPU core, to get better performance,
> > its better to move the gist of rx packet processing
> > in a high priority thread.
> >
> > Add the init/deinit part for a thread to process the
> > receive packets.
> >
> IMHO this defeat the whole purpose of NAPI. Originally in ath10k
> irq processing happened in tasklet (high priority) context which in
> turn push more data to net core even though net is unable to process
> driver data as both happen in different context (fast producer - slow
> consumer)
> issue. Why can't CPU governor schedule the interrupts in less loaded CPU
> core?
> Otherwise you can play with different RPS and affinity settings to meet
> your
> requirement.
> 
> IMO introducing high priority tasklets/threads is not viable solution.

Hi Rajkumar,
In linux, the IRQs are directed to the first core which is booted.
I see that all the IRQs are getting routed to CORE0 even if its heavily
loaded.

IRQ and NAPI are not under the scheduler's control, since it cannot be
moved.
NAPI is scheduled only on the same core as IRQ. But a thread can be moved
around by the scheduler based on the CPU load.
This is the reason I went ahead with using thread.

Affinity settings are static, and cannot be done runtime without any
downstream userspace entity.


> 
> -Rajkumar


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-23 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-21 17:14 [RFC 0/7] Add support to process rx packets in thread Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 17:14 ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 17:14 ` [RFC 1/7] mac80211: Add check for napi handle before WARN_ON Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 17:14   ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-22 12:56   ` Johannes Berg
2020-07-22 12:56     ` Johannes Berg
2020-07-23 18:26     ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-23 18:26       ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-23 20:06       ` Johannes Berg
2020-07-23 20:06         ` Johannes Berg
2020-07-24  6:21         ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-24  6:21           ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-26 16:19         ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-26 16:19           ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-30 12:40           ` Johannes Berg
2020-07-30 12:40             ` Johannes Berg
2020-07-21 17:14 ` [RFC 2/7] ath10k: Add support to process rx packet in thread Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 17:14   ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 21:53   ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2020-07-21 21:53     ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2020-07-22 12:27     ` Felix Fietkau
2020-07-22 12:27       ` Felix Fietkau
2020-07-22 12:55       ` Johannes Berg
2020-07-22 12:55         ` Johannes Berg
2020-07-22 13:00         ` Felix Fietkau
2020-07-22 13:00           ` Felix Fietkau
2020-07-23  6:09           ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2020-07-23  6:09             ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2021-03-22 23:57           ` Ben Greear
2021-03-22 23:57             ` Ben Greear
2021-03-23  1:20             ` Brian Norris
2021-03-23  1:20               ` Brian Norris
2021-03-23  3:01               ` Ben Greear
2021-03-23  3:01                 ` Ben Greear
2021-03-23  7:45                 ` Felix Fietkau
2021-03-23  7:45                   ` Felix Fietkau
2021-03-25  9:45                   ` Rakesh Pillai
2021-03-25  9:45                     ` Rakesh Pillai
2021-03-25 10:33                     ` Felix Fietkau
2021-03-25 10:33                       ` Felix Fietkau
2020-07-23 18:25     ` Rakesh Pillai [this message]
2020-07-23 18:25       ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-24 23:11       ` Jacob Keller
2020-07-24 23:11         ` Jacob Keller
2020-07-21 17:14 ` [RFC 3/7] ath10k: Add module param to enable rx thread Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 17:14   ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 17:14 ` [RFC 4/7] ath10k: Do not exhaust budget on process tx completion Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 17:14   ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 17:14 ` [RFC 5/7] ath10k: Handle the rx packet processing in thread Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 17:14   ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 17:14 ` [RFC 6/7] ath10k: Add deliver to stack from thread context Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 17:14   ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 17:14 ` [RFC 7/7] ath10k: Handle rx thread suspend and resume Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 17:14   ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-23 23:06   ` Sebastian Gottschall
2020-07-23 23:06     ` Sebastian Gottschall
2020-07-24  6:19     ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-24  6:19       ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-21 17:25 ` [RFC 0/7] Add support to process rx packets in thread Andrew Lunn
2020-07-21 17:25   ` Andrew Lunn
2020-07-21 18:05   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-07-21 18:05     ` Florian Fainelli
2020-07-23 18:21     ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-23 18:21       ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-23 19:02       ` Florian Fainelli
2020-07-23 19:02         ` Florian Fainelli
2020-07-24  6:20         ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-24  6:20           ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-24 22:28           ` Florian Fainelli
2020-07-24 22:28             ` Florian Fainelli
2020-07-22  9:12   ` David Laight
2020-07-22  9:12     ` David Laight
2020-07-25  8:16     ` Hillf Danton
2020-07-25 10:38       ` Sebastian Gottschall
2020-07-25 10:38         ` Sebastian Gottschall
2020-07-25 12:25         ` Hillf Danton
2020-07-25 14:08         ` Sebastian Gottschall
2020-07-25 14:08           ` Sebastian Gottschall
2020-07-25 14:57           ` Hillf Danton
2020-07-25 15:41             ` Sebastian Gottschall
2020-07-25 15:41               ` Sebastian Gottschall
2020-07-26 11:16               ` David Laight
2020-07-26 11:16                 ` David Laight
2020-07-28 16:59                 ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-28 16:59                   ` Rakesh Pillai
2020-07-29  1:34                   ` Hillf Danton
2020-07-25 17:57       ` Felix Fietkau
2020-07-25 17:57         ` Felix Fietkau
2020-07-26  1:22         ` Hillf Danton
2020-07-26  8:10           ` Felix Fietkau
2020-07-26  8:10             ` Felix Fietkau
2020-07-26  8:32             ` Hillf Danton
2020-07-26  8:59               ` Felix Fietkau
2020-07-26  8:59                 ` Felix Fietkau
2020-07-22 16:20   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-07-22 16:20     ` Jakub Kicinski

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