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From: Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
To: "'Arnd Bergmann'" <arnd@arndb.de>, "'Hans Verkuil'" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Cc: "'Daniel Walker'" <dwalker@codeaurora.org>,
	"'Jesse Barker'" <jesse.barker@linaro.org>,
	"'Mel Gorman'" <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	"'KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki'" <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"'Michal Nazarewicz'" <mina86@mina86.com>,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"'Kyungmin Park'" <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	"'Ankita Garg'" <ankita@in.ibm.com>,
	"'Andrew Morton'" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH 08/10] mm: cma: Contiguous Memory	Allocator added
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:15:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <003701cc30de$7a159710$6e40c530$%szyprowski@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201106221442.20848.arnd@arndb.de>

Hello,

On Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:42 PM Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> On Wednesday 22 June 2011, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > > How about a Kconfig option that defines the percentage of memory
> > > to set aside for contiguous allocations?
> >
> > I would actually like to see a cma_size kernel option of some sort. This
> would
> > be for the global CMA pool only as I don't think we should try to do
> anything
> > more complicated here.
> 
> A command line is probably good to override the compile-time default, yes.
> 
> We could also go further and add a runtime sysctl mechanism like the one
> for hugepages, where you can grow the pool at run time as long as there is
> enough free contiguous memory (e.g. from init scripts), or shrink it later
> if you want to allow larger nonmovable allocations.

Sounds really good, but it might be really hard to implemnt, at least for
CMA, because it needs to tweak parameters of memory management internal 
structures very early, when buddy allocator has not been activated yet.

> My feeling is that we need to find a way to integrate the global settings
> for four kinds of allocations:
> 
> * nonmovable kernel pages
> * hugetlb pages
> * CMA
> * memory hotplug
> 
> These essentially fight over the same memory (though things are slightly
> different with dynamic hugepages), and they all face the same basic problem
> of getting as much for themselves without starving the other three.

I'm not sure we can solve all such issues in the first version. Maybe we should
first have each of the above fully working in mainline separately and then
start the integration works.

Best regards
-- 
Marek Szyprowski
Samsung Poland R&D Center




WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
To: 'Arnd Bergmann' <arnd@arndb.de>, 'Hans Verkuil' <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Cc: 'Daniel Walker' <dwalker@codeaurora.org>,
	'Jesse Barker' <jesse.barker@linaro.org>,
	'Mel Gorman' <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	'KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki' <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	'Michal Nazarewicz' <mina86@mina86.com>,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	'Kyungmin Park' <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	'Ankita Garg' <ankita@in.ibm.com>,
	'Andrew Morton' <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH 08/10] mm: cma: Contiguous Memory	Allocator added
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:15:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <003701cc30de$7a159710$6e40c530$%szyprowski@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201106221442.20848.arnd@arndb.de>

Hello,

On Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:42 PM Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> On Wednesday 22 June 2011, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > > How about a Kconfig option that defines the percentage of memory
> > > to set aside for contiguous allocations?
> >
> > I would actually like to see a cma_size kernel option of some sort. This
> would
> > be for the global CMA pool only as I don't think we should try to do
> anything
> > more complicated here.
> 
> A command line is probably good to override the compile-time default, yes.
> 
> We could also go further and add a runtime sysctl mechanism like the one
> for hugepages, where you can grow the pool at run time as long as there is
> enough free contiguous memory (e.g. from init scripts), or shrink it later
> if you want to allow larger nonmovable allocations.

Sounds really good, but it might be really hard to implemnt, at least for
CMA, because it needs to tweak parameters of memory management internal 
structures very early, when buddy allocator has not been activated yet.

> My feeling is that we need to find a way to integrate the global settings
> for four kinds of allocations:
> 
> * nonmovable kernel pages
> * hugetlb pages
> * CMA
> * memory hotplug
> 
> These essentially fight over the same memory (though things are slightly
> different with dynamic hugepages), and they all face the same basic problem
> of getting as much for themselves without starving the other three.

I'm not sure we can solve all such issues in the first version. Maybe we should
first have each of the above fully working in mainline separately and then
start the integration works.

Best regards
-- 
Marek Szyprowski
Samsung Poland R&D Center



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From: m.szyprowski@samsung.com (Marek Szyprowski)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH 08/10] mm: cma: Contiguous Memory	Allocator added
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:15:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <003701cc30de$7a159710$6e40c530$%szyprowski@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201106221442.20848.arnd@arndb.de>

Hello,

On Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:42 PM Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> On Wednesday 22 June 2011, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > > How about a Kconfig option that defines the percentage of memory
> > > to set aside for contiguous allocations?
> >
> > I would actually like to see a cma_size kernel option of some sort. This
> would
> > be for the global CMA pool only as I don't think we should try to do
> anything
> > more complicated here.
> 
> A command line is probably good to override the compile-time default, yes.
> 
> We could also go further and add a runtime sysctl mechanism like the one
> for hugepages, where you can grow the pool at run time as long as there is
> enough free contiguous memory (e.g. from init scripts), or shrink it later
> if you want to allow larger nonmovable allocations.

Sounds really good, but it might be really hard to implemnt, at least for
CMA, because it needs to tweak parameters of memory management internal 
structures very early, when buddy allocator has not been activated yet.

> My feeling is that we need to find a way to integrate the global settings
> for four kinds of allocations:
> 
> * nonmovable kernel pages
> * hugetlb pages
> * CMA
> * memory hotplug
> 
> These essentially fight over the same memory (though things are slightly
> different with dynamic hugepages), and they all face the same basic problem
> of getting as much for themselves without starving the other three.

I'm not sure we can solve all such issues in the first version. Maybe we should
first have each of the above fully working in mainline separately and then
start the integration works.

Best regards
-- 
Marek Szyprowski
Samsung Poland R&D Center

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-22 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 178+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-10  9:54 [PATCHv10 0/10] Contiguous Memory Allocator Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54 ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54 ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54 ` [PATCH 01/10] lib: bitmap: Added alignment offset for bitmap_find_next_zero_area() Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54 ` [PATCH 02/10] lib: genalloc: Generic allocator improvements Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 11:24   ` Alan Cox
2011-06-10 11:24     ` Alan Cox
2011-06-10 11:24     ` Alan Cox
2011-06-10 12:22     ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 12:22       ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 12:22       ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 12:52       ` Alan Cox
2011-06-10 12:52         ` Alan Cox
2011-06-10 12:52         ` Alan Cox
2011-06-10 17:16         ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-10 17:16           ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-10 17:16           ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-14 15:49         ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Jordan Crouse
2011-06-14 15:49           ` Jordan Crouse
2011-06-14 15:49           ` Jordan Crouse
2011-06-10  9:54 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm: move some functions from memory_hotplug.c to page_isolation.c Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm: alloc_contig_freed_pages() added Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm: alloc_contig_range() added Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: MIGRATE_CMA migration type added Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: MIGRATE_CMA isolation functions added Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: cma: Contiguous Memory Allocator added Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 16:21   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-10 16:21     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-10 16:21     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-13  9:05     ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-13  9:05       ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-13  9:05       ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-14 13:49       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 13:49         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 13:49         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 13:55         ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-14 13:55           ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-14 13:55           ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-14 16:03           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 16:03             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 16:03             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 16:58             ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-14 16:58               ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-14 16:58               ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-14 18:30               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 18:30                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 18:30                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 18:40                 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-14 18:40                   ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-14 18:40                   ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-15  7:11                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-15  7:11                   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-15  7:11                   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-15  7:37                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15  7:37                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15  7:37                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15  8:14                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-15  8:14                       ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-15  8:14                       ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-16  0:48                     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Philip Balister
2011-06-16  0:48                       ` Philip Balister
2011-06-16  0:48                       ` Philip Balister
2011-06-16  7:03                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16  7:03                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16  7:03                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16  7:03                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-22  7:03                     ` Hans Verkuil
2011-06-22  7:03                       ` Hans Verkuil
2011-06-22  7:03                       ` Hans Verkuil
2011-06-22  7:32                       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-22  7:32                         ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-22  7:32                         ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-22 12:42                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-22 12:42                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-22 12:42                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-22 13:15                         ` Marek Szyprowski [this message]
2011-06-22 13:15                           ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-22 13:15                           ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-22 13:39                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-22 13:39                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-22 13:39                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-22 13:39                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-22 16:04                             ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-22 16:04                               ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-22 16:04                               ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-22 15:54                           ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-22 15:54                             ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-22 15:54                             ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-15 11:53                 ` Daniel Vetter
2011-06-15 11:53                   ` Daniel Vetter
2011-06-15 11:53                   ` Daniel Vetter
2011-06-15 13:12                   ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-06-15 13:12                     ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-06-15 13:12                     ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-06-17 16:08                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-17 16:08                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-17 16:08                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 17:01             ` Daniel Stone
2011-06-14 17:01               ` Daniel Stone
2011-06-14 17:01               ` Daniel Stone
2011-06-14 18:58               ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-06-14 18:58                 ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-06-14 18:58                 ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-06-14 20:42                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 20:42                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 20:42                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 21:01                   ` Jordan Crouse
2011-06-14 21:01                     ` Jordan Crouse
2011-06-14 21:01                     ` Jordan Crouse
2011-06-15 11:27                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15 11:27                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15 11:27                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15 11:27                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15  6:29                   ` Subash Patel
2011-06-15  8:36                   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-15  8:36                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-15  8:36                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-15 21:39                     ` Larry Bassel
2011-06-15 21:39                       ` Larry Bassel
2011-06-15 21:39                       ` Larry Bassel
2011-06-15 22:06                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15 22:06                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15 22:06                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 17:01                         ` Larry Bassel
2011-06-16 17:01                           ` Larry Bassel
2011-06-16 17:01                           ` Larry Bassel
2011-06-17 12:45                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-17 12:45                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-17 12:45                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-07-04  5:25                         ` Ankita Garg
2011-07-04  5:25                           ` Ankita Garg
2011-07-04  5:25                           ` Ankita Garg
2011-07-04 14:45                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-07-04 14:45                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-07-04 14:45                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16  3:20                       ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-06-16  3:20                         ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-06-16  3:20                         ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-06-15  9:26                   ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-15  9:26                     ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-15  9:26                     ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-15 11:20                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15 11:20                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15 11:20                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15 11:30                       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-15 11:30                         ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-15 11:30                         ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-15  6:01             ` Subash Patel
2011-06-15  6:01               ` Subash Patel
2011-06-15  6:01               ` Subash Patel
2011-06-15  8:02         ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-15  8:02           ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-15  8:02           ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-15 11:14           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15 11:14             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15 11:14             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-10  9:54 ` [PATCH 09/10] ARM: integrate CMA with dma-mapping subsystem Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54 ` [PATCH 10/10] ARM: S5PV210: add CMA support for FIMC devices on Aquila board Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10  9:54   ` Marek Szyprowski

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