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From: Topi Miettinen <toiwoton@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Markus Elfring <elfring@users.sourceforge.net>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>,
	"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:CONTROL GROUP (CGROUP)" <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/14] resource limits: aggregate task highwater marks to cgroup level
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:57:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <08d85be0-5ac7-d7ea-0fec-ceb3970f264b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160718225249.GM3078@mtj.duckdns.org>

On 07/18/16 22:52, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 05:15:41PM +0000, Topi Miettinen wrote:
>> There are clear semantics for the limits themselves, either they apply
>> per task or per user. It makes sense to gather values according to these
>> semantics. Then with systemd or other tools you can use the valuse to
>> set the limits for a service regardless if the limit applies per task or
>> per user and it works according to each limit's semantics.
> 
> What does it mean to collect the maximum of the high watermarks of
> multiple users or the high water marks along process hierarchy which
> is spread across multiple cgroups?  These are non-sensical numbers.
> If you want to collect high watermarks per-cgroup, the numbers have to
> be per-cgroup - how many fds are being used in that particular cgroup
> and what's the high watermark of that number and so on.  You can't
> just take maximum from process hierarchy or user watermarks.

Then there would need to be new limit checks at cgroup level. Would you
see problems with that approach?

-Topi

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-19 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-15 10:35 [PATCH 00/14] Present useful limits to user (v2) Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 01/14] resource limits: foundation for resource highwater tracking Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 12:12   ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-15 12:49   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2016-07-15 16:27     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 17:57       ` Nicolas Dichtel
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 02/14] resource limits: aggregate task highwater marks to cgroup level Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 12:38   ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-15 14:10   ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-15 17:15     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-18 22:52       ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-19 16:57         ` Topi Miettinen [this message]
2016-07-19 18:18           ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 03/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of file sizes Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 04/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of VM data segment Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 05/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of stack size Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 06/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of cores dumped Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 07/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of user processes Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 08/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of number of files Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 09/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of locked memory Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 15:14   ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-15 15:14     ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-15 15:14     ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-15 17:39     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 17:39       ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 17:39       ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-18 15:38       ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-18 15:38         ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-18 15:38         ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-15 17:45   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 10/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of address space size Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 11/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of number of pending signals Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 12/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of size of message queues Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:36 ` [PATCH 13/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of niceness Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:36 ` [PATCH 14/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of RT priority Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 12:43 ` [PATCH 00/14] Present useful limits to user (v2) Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 12:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 12:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 13:52   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 13:52     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 13:52     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 13:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 13:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 13:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 13:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 13:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 16:57       ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 16:57         ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 16:57         ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 16:57         ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 20:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 20:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 20:54         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 20:54         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 20:54         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-18 13:00         ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
     [not found]       ` <20160715135956.GA3115-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-15 20:54         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 20:54         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 20:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 20:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 13:04 ` Balbir Singh
2016-07-15 13:04   ` Balbir Singh
2016-07-15 13:04   ` Balbir Singh
2016-07-15 16:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 16:35     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 16:35     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-18 22:05     ` Doug Ledford
2016-07-18 22:05       ` Doug Ledford
2016-07-19 16:53       ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-19 16:53         ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-19 16:53         ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 14:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2016-07-15 14:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2016-07-15 14:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2016-07-15 17:19   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 17:19     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 17:19     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-18 21:25   ` Doug Ledford
2016-07-18 21:25     ` Doug Ledford
2016-07-15 17:42 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-08-03 18:20 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-08-03 18:20   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-08-04  6:59   ` Fwd: " Topi Miettinen

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