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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Topi Miettinen <toiwoton@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Tony Luck" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"Fenghua Yu" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.com>,
	"Benjamin Herrenschmidt" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	"Paul Mackerras" <paulus@samba.org>,
	"Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Doug Ledford" <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"Sean Hefty" <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	"Hal Rosenstock" <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
	"Mike Marciniszyn" <mike.marciniszyn@intel.com>,
	"Dennis Dalessandro" <dennis.dalessandro@intel.com>,
	"Christian Benvenuti" <benve@cisco.com>,
	"Dave Goodell" <dgoodell@cisco.com>,
	"Sudeep Dutt" <sudeep.dutt@intel.com>,
	"Ashutosh Dixit" <ashutosh.dixit@intel.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of locked memory
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:38:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160718153802.GA31174@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5c43bc33-6625-ceb7-e96e-adf7df5b642c@gmail.com>

On 07/15, Topi Miettinen wrote:
>
> On 07/15/16 15:14, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > Btw this is not right. The same for the previous patch which tracks
> > RLIMIT_STACK. The "current" task can debugger/etc.
>
> acct_stack_growth() is called from expand_upwards() and
> expand_downwards(). They call security_mmap_addr() and the various LSM
> implementations also use current task in the checks. Are these also not
> right?

Just suppose that the stack grows because you read/write to /proc/pid/mem.

> > Yes, yes, this just reminds that the whole rlimit logic in this path
> > is broken but still...
>
> I'd be happy to fix the logic with a separate prerequisite patch and
> then use the right logic for this patch, but I'm not sure I know how.
> Could you elaborate a bit?

If only I Knew how to fix this ;) I mean, if only I could suggest a
simple fix. Because IMHO we do not really care, rlimts are obsolete.

Oleg.

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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Topi Miettinen <toiwoton@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Tony Luck" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"Fenghua Yu" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.com>,
	"Benjamin Herrenschmidt" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	"Paul Mackerras" <paulus@samba.org>,
	"Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Doug Ledford" <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"Sean Hefty" <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	"Hal Rosenstock" <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
	"Mike Marciniszyn" <mike.marciniszyn@intel.com>,
	"Dennis Dalessandro" <dennis.dalessandro@intel.com>,
	"Christian Benvenuti" <benve@cisco.com>,
	"Dave Goodell" <dgoodell@cisco.com>,
	"Sudeep Dutt" <sudeep.dutt@intel.com>,
	"Ashutosh Dixit" <ashutosh.dixit@intel.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@kernel.org>,
	"Alexander Shishkin" <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Jiri Slaby" <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	"Konstantin Khlebnikov" <koct9i@gmail.com>,
	"Cyrill Gorcunov" <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Dan Carpenter" <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	"Eric B Munson" <emunson@akamai.com>,
	"Alexey Klimov" <klimov.linux@gmail.com>,
	"Andrea Arcangeli" <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Chen Gang" <gang.chen.5i5j@gmail.com>,
	"Andrey Ryabinin" <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"Hugh Dickins" <hughd@google.com>,
	"Alexander Kuleshov" <kuleshovmail@gmail.com>,
	"open list:IA64 (Itanium) PLATFORM" <linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:KERNEL VIRTUAL MACHINE (KVM)" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:KERNEL VIRTUAL MACHINE (KVM) FOR POWERPC"
	<kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:LINUX FOR POWERPC (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
	<linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"open list:INFINIBAND SUBSYSTEM" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:BPF (Safe dynamic programs and tools)"
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of locked memory
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:38:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160718153802.GA31174@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5c43bc33-6625-ceb7-e96e-adf7df5b642c@gmail.com>

On 07/15, Topi Miettinen wrote:
>
> On 07/15/16 15:14, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > Btw this is not right. The same for the previous patch which tracks
> > RLIMIT_STACK. The "current" task can debugger/etc.
>
> acct_stack_growth() is called from expand_upwards() and
> expand_downwards(). They call security_mmap_addr() and the various LSM
> implementations also use current task in the checks. Are these also not
> right?

Just suppose that the stack grows because you read/write to /proc/pid/mem.

> > Yes, yes, this just reminds that the whole rlimit logic in this path
> > is broken but still...
>
> I'd be happy to fix the logic with a separate prerequisite patch and
> then use the right logic for this patch, but I'm not sure I know how.
> Could you elaborate a bit?

If only I Knew how to fix this ;) I mean, if only I could suggest a
simple fix. Because IMHO we do not really care, rlimts are obsolete.

Oleg.

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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Topi Miettinen <toiwoton@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Tony Luck" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"Fenghua Yu" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.com>,
	"Benjamin Herrenschmidt" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	"Paul Mackerras" <paulus@samba.org>,
	"Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Doug Ledford" <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"Sean Hefty" <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	"Hal Rosenstock" <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
	"Mike Marciniszyn" <mike.marciniszyn@intel.com>,
	"Dennis Dalessandro" <dennis.dalessandro@intel.com>,
	"Christian Benvenuti" <benve@cisco.com>,
	"Dave Goodell" <dgoodell@cisco.com>,
	"Sudeep Dutt" <sudeep.dutt@intel.com>,
	"Ashutosh Dixit" <ashutosh.dixit@intel.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@kernel.org>,
	"Alexander Shishkin" <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Jiri Slaby" <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	"Konstantin Khlebnikov" <koct9i@gmail.com>,
	"Cyrill Gorcunov" <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Dan Carpenter" <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	"Eric B Munson" <emunson@akamai.com>,
	"Alexey Klimov" <klimov.linux@gmail.com>,
	"Andrea Arcangeli" <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Chen Gang" <gang.chen.5i5j@gmail.com>,
	"Andrey Ryabinin" <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"Hugh Dickins" <hughd@google.com>,
	"Alexander Kuleshov" <kuleshovmail@gmail.com>,
	"open list:IA64 (Itanium) PLATFORM" <linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:KERNEL VIRTUAL MACHINE (KVM)" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:KERNEL VIRTUAL MACHINE (KVM) FOR POWERPC"
	<kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:LINUX FOR POWERPC (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
	<linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"open list:INFINIBAND SUBSYSTEM" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:BPF (Safe dynamic programs and tools)"
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of locked memory
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:38:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160718153802.GA31174@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5c43bc33-6625-ceb7-e96e-adf7df5b642c@gmail.com>

On 07/15, Topi Miettinen wrote:
>
> On 07/15/16 15:14, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > Btw this is not right. The same for the previous patch which tracks
> > RLIMIT_STACK. The "current" task can debugger/etc.
>
> acct_stack_growth() is called from expand_upwards() and
> expand_downwards(). They call security_mmap_addr() and the various LSM
> implementations also use current task in the checks. Are these also not
> right?

Just suppose that the stack grows because you read/write to /proc/pid/mem.

> > Yes, yes, this just reminds that the whole rlimit logic in this path
> > is broken but still...
>
> I'd be happy to fix the logic with a separate prerequisite patch and
> then use the right logic for this patch, but I'm not sure I know how.
> Could you elaborate a bit?

If only I Knew how to fix this ;) I mean, if only I could suggest a
simple fix. Because IMHO we do not really care, rlimts are obsolete.

Oleg.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-18 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-15 10:35 [PATCH 00/14] Present useful limits to user (v2) Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 01/14] resource limits: foundation for resource highwater tracking Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 12:12   ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-15 12:49   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2016-07-15 16:27     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 17:57       ` Nicolas Dichtel
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 02/14] resource limits: aggregate task highwater marks to cgroup level Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 12:38   ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-15 14:10   ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-15 17:15     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-18 22:52       ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-19 16:57         ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-19 18:18           ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 03/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of file sizes Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 04/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of VM data segment Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 05/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of stack size Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 06/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of cores dumped Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 07/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of user processes Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 08/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of number of files Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 09/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of locked memory Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 15:14   ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-15 15:14     ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-15 15:14     ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-15 17:39     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 17:39       ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 17:39       ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-18 15:38       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2016-07-18 15:38         ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-18 15:38         ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-15 17:45   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 10/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of address space size Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 11/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of number of pending signals Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 12/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of size of message queues Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:36 ` [PATCH 13/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of niceness Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 10:36 ` [PATCH 14/14] resource limits: track highwater mark of RT priority Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 12:43 ` [PATCH 00/14] Present useful limits to user (v2) Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 12:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 12:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 13:52   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 13:52     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 13:52     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 13:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 13:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 13:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 13:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 13:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-15 16:57       ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 16:57         ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 16:57         ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 16:57         ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 20:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 20:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 20:54         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 20:54         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 20:54         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-18 13:00         ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
     [not found]       ` <20160715135956.GA3115-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-15 20:54         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 20:54         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 20:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 20:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-15 13:04 ` Balbir Singh
2016-07-15 13:04   ` Balbir Singh
2016-07-15 13:04   ` Balbir Singh
2016-07-15 16:35   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 16:35     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 16:35     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-18 22:05     ` Doug Ledford
2016-07-18 22:05       ` Doug Ledford
2016-07-19 16:53       ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-19 16:53         ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-19 16:53         ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 14:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2016-07-15 14:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2016-07-15 14:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2016-07-15 17:19   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 17:19     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-15 17:19     ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-18 21:25   ` Doug Ledford
2016-07-18 21:25     ` Doug Ledford
2016-07-15 17:42 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-08-03 18:20 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-08-03 18:20   ` Topi Miettinen
2016-08-04  6:59   ` Fwd: " Topi Miettinen

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