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From: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Cc: Pantelis Antoniou <panto@antoniou-consulting.com>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	Deepak Saxena <dsaxena@linaro.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>, Russ Dill <Russ.Dill@ti.com>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>, Benoit Cousson <b-cousson@ti.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matt Porter <mporter@ti.com>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>,
	devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Device Tree Overlays Proposal (Was Re: capebus moving omap_devices to mach-omap2)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:03:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <11727BE5-7173-4383-BD0E-751EFD093706@dominion.thruhere.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACxGe6vu8ek7-K-yDDMXyg9x-oKiFt_cSz+Pz-yZf5U5vwe=0g@mail.gmail.com>


Op 5 nov. 2012, om 21:40 heeft Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca> het volgende geschreven:

> Hey folks,
> 
> As promised, here is my early draft to try and capture what device
> tree overlays need to do and how to get there. Comments and
> suggestions greatly appreciated.
> 
> Device Tree Overlay Feature
> 
> Purpose
> =======
> Sometimes it is not convenient to describe an entire system with a
> single FDT. For example, processor modules that are plugged into one or
> more modules (a la the BeagleBone), or systems with an FPGA peripheral
> that is programmed after the system is booted.
> 
> For these cases it is proposed to implement an overlay feature for the
> so that the initial device tree data can be modified by userspace at
> runtime by loading additional overlay FDTs that amend the original data.
> 
> User Stories
> ============
> Note - These are potential use cases, but just because it is listed here
> doesn't mean it is important. I just want to thoroughly think through the
> implications before making design decisions.

I think the beaglebone use cases cover it as well, but it deserves a seperate mention: SOMs. Gumstix is a good example of those, their website has a list of the different expansionboards they sell so we can see if we missed a use case somewhere.
Their expansionboards have an EEPROM to ID them, just like the beagleboard classic/xM expansionboards, but I don't know if all 3rd party vendors honour that standard. I know the Ettus USRP E-100 on my desk has it.

regards,

Koen

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From: Koen Kooi <koen-QLwJDigV5abLmq1fohREcCpxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Kevin Hilman <khilman-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Matt Porter <mporter-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
	Pantelis Antoniou
	<panto-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Deepak Saxena <dsaxena-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Scott Wood <scottwood-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>,
	Russ Dill <Russ.Dill-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-omap-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Device Tree Overlays Proposal (Was Re: capebus moving omap_devices to mach-omap2)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:03:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <11727BE5-7173-4383-BD0E-751EFD093706@dominion.thruhere.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACxGe6vu8ek7-K-yDDMXyg9x-oKiFt_cSz+Pz-yZf5U5vwe=0g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>


Op 5 nov. 2012, om 21:40 heeft Grant Likely <grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org> het volgende geschreven:

> Hey folks,
> 
> As promised, here is my early draft to try and capture what device
> tree overlays need to do and how to get there. Comments and
> suggestions greatly appreciated.
> 
> Device Tree Overlay Feature
> 
> Purpose
> =======
> Sometimes it is not convenient to describe an entire system with a
> single FDT. For example, processor modules that are plugged into one or
> more modules (a la the BeagleBone), or systems with an FPGA peripheral
> that is programmed after the system is booted.
> 
> For these cases it is proposed to implement an overlay feature for the
> so that the initial device tree data can be modified by userspace at
> runtime by loading additional overlay FDTs that amend the original data.
> 
> User Stories
> ============
> Note - These are potential use cases, but just because it is listed here
> doesn't mean it is important. I just want to thoroughly think through the
> implications before making design decisions.

I think the beaglebone use cases cover it as well, but it deserves a seperate mention: SOMs. Gumstix is a good example of those, their website has a list of the different expansionboards they sell so we can see if we missed a use case somewhere.
Their expansionboards have an EEPROM to ID them, just like the beagleboard classic/xM expansionboards, but I don't know if all 3rd party vendors honour that standard. I know the Ettus USRP E-100 on my desk has it.

regards,

Koen

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-12 11:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-05 20:40 [RFC] Device Tree Overlays Proposal (Was Re: capebus moving omap_devices to mach-omap2) Grant Likely
2012-11-05 21:40 ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-11-05 21:40   ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-11-05 23:22   ` Tony Lindgren
2012-11-05 23:22     ` Tony Lindgren
2012-11-09 12:06     ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09 12:06       ` Grant Likely
2012-11-06  0:07   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-06  0:07     ` Grant Likely
2012-11-06 10:31   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-06 10:31     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 22:35   ` Ryan Mallon
2012-11-07 22:35     ` Ryan Mallon
2012-11-08 13:28     ` Koen Kooi
2012-11-08 13:28       ` Koen Kooi
2012-11-08 14:09       ` Timur Tabi
2012-11-08 14:09         ` Timur Tabi
2012-11-08 17:00       ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-08 17:00         ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-06 10:30 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-06 11:14   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-06 18:35     ` Tony Lindgren
2012-11-06 19:29       ` Russ Dill
2012-11-06 19:41         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-06 19:41           ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-06 22:17           ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-06 22:17             ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-06 19:34     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-06 20:45       ` Grant Likely
2012-11-06 20:50         ` Grant Likely
2012-11-07  8:06         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 15:33           ` Alan Tull
2012-11-07 15:33             ` Alan Tull
2012-11-09 17:03           ` Grant Likely
2012-11-07  8:13         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 10:19           ` Benoit Cousson
2012-11-07 10:19             ` Benoit Cousson
2012-11-07 11:02             ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 11:02               ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 11:12               ` Benoit Cousson
2012-11-07 11:12                 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-11-07 11:23                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 11:23                   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-09 20:33               ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 11:34                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 13:01                   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-07 17:25             ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-07 22:10               ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 22:10                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-08 10:36               ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-11-08 10:36                 ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-11-09  5:32   ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-09 14:29     ` David Gibson
2012-11-10  3:15       ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-09 21:22     ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 11:47       ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 11:47         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13  3:59       ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-09 22:59     ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]   ` <-4237940489086529028@unknownmsgid>
     [not found]     ` <559B8433-67C3-4A1A-A5D6-859907655176@antoniou-consulting.com>
2012-11-10  3:36       ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-10  3:36         ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-12 12:48         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13  2:28         ` David Gibson
2012-11-06 22:37 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-06 22:37   ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-07  0:54   ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-07  0:54     ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-09 17:02     ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 11:29       ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07  8:47   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 17:18     ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-07 22:08       ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 22:08         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-09 16:28   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09 23:23     ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09 23:40       ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 10:53         ` Koen Kooi
2012-11-12 12:10       ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 12:10         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 16:52         ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13  7:25           ` David Gibson
2012-11-13  8:09             ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13  8:09               ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13 12:24               ` Grant Likely
2012-11-13 13:38                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13 13:38                   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-15  4:57                   ` David Gibson
2012-11-13 17:10               ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13 23:30               ` David Gibson
2012-11-13 23:30                 ` David Gibson
2012-11-14  0:00                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13 16:57             ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13 18:10               ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-13 18:10                 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-13 18:29                 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13 18:29                   ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13 19:09                   ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-13 19:11                     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-17 22:27       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-11-20 17:09         ` Grant Likely
2012-11-11 20:47     ` Rob Landley
2012-11-12 12:50       ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 16:54         ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 16:54           ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 11:23     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 16:49       ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 17:00         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 17:10           ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 17:19             ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 17:29               ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 17:38                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 20:16       ` Russ Dill
2012-11-12 16:45     ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09  2:26 ` David Gibson
2012-11-09 15:40   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13  0:03     ` David Gibson
2012-11-13  0:03       ` David Gibson
2012-11-09 21:08   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-13  0:05     ` David Gibson
2012-11-13  0:05       ` David Gibson
2012-11-09 21:42   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-13  1:05     ` David Gibson
2012-11-13  1:05       ` David Gibson
2012-11-13  5:22       ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13  6:54         ` David Gibson
2012-11-13  6:54           ` David Gibson
2012-11-09 22:57   ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09 23:27     ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 12:05     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-09 23:14   ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09 23:14     ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09 23:06 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09 23:32   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 11:03 ` Koen Kooi [this message]
2012-11-12 11:03   ` Koen Kooi

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