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From: Pantelis Antoniou <panto@antoniou-consulting.com>
To: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
Cc: Benoit Cousson <b-cousson@ti.com>, Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>,
	Matt Porter <mporter@ti.com>,
	Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>, Deepak Saxena <dsaxena@linaro.org>,
	Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>,
	Russ Dill <Russ.Dill@ti.com>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Device Tree Overlays Proposal (Was Re: capebus moving omap_devices to mach-omap2)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 23:10:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37BFD75A-5A27-4E3F-A494-A0707E48B236@antoniou-consulting.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <509A9984.3000709@wwwdotorg.org>

Hi Stephen,

On Nov 7, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Stephen Warren wrote:

> On 11/07/2012 03:19 AM, Benoit Cousson wrote:
>> Hi Panto,
>> 
>> On 11/07/2012 09:13 AM, Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
>>> Hi Grant
>>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Pantelis Antoniou
>>>> <panto@antoniou-consulting.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> [ snip ]
>>>> 
>>>> g.
>>> 
>>> Since we've started talking about longer term goals, and the versioning
>>> provision seems to stand, I hope we address how much the fragment versioning
>>> thing is similar to the way board revisions progress.
>>> 
>>> If a versioning syntax is available then one could create a single DT 
>>> file for a bunch of 'almost' similar board and board revisions.
>> 
>> I even think that the version issue is probably much more important for the short term than the overlay aspect. Well at least as important. We start having as well a bunch a panda board version with different HW setup.
>> 
>> Having a single board-XXX.dts that will support all these versions is probably the best approach to avoid choosing that from the bootloader.
>> 
>> We need to figure out a format + mechanism compatible with the current non-versioned format to allow filtering the nodes at runtime to keep only the relevant one.
>> 
>> Something that can find the driver that will provide the proper board version or subsystem version or whatever like that:
>> 
>> 	compatible-version = "ti,panda-version", "panda";
>> 
>> Then at runtime we should create only the node with the correct match between the driver version and the string version.
>> 
>> 
>> /* regular panda audio routing */
>> sound: sound {
>> 	compatible = "ti,abe-twl6040";
>> 	ti,model = "PandaBoard";
>> 	compatible-version = "ti,panda-version", "panda";
>> 
>> 	/* Audio routing */
>> 	ti,audio-routing =
>> 		"Headset Stereophone", "HSOL",
>> 		"Headset Stereophone", "HSOR",
>> 		"Ext Spk", "HFL",
>> 		"Ext Spk", "HFR",
>> 		"Line Out", "AUXL",
>> 		"Line Out", "AUXR",
>> 		"HSMIC", "Headset Mic",
>> 		"Headset Mic", "Headset Mic Bias",
>> 		"AFML", "Line In",
>> 		"AFMR", "Line In";
>> };
>> 
>> 
>> /* Audio routing is different between PandaBoard4430 and PandaBoardES */
>> &sound {
>> 	ti,model = "PandaBoardES";
>> 	compatible-version = "ti,panda-version", "panda-es";
>> 
>> 	/* Audio routing */
>> 	ti,audio-routing =
>> 		"Headset Stereophone", "HSOL",
>> 		"Headset Stereophone", "HSOR",
>> 		"Ext Spk", "HFL",
>> 		"Ext Spk", "HFR",
>> 		"Line Out", "AUXL",
>> 		"Line Out", "AUXR",
>> 		"AFML", "Line In",
>> 		"AFMR", "Line In";
>> };
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe some extra version match table can just be passed during the board machine_init 
>> 
>> 	of_platform_populate(NULL, omap_dt_match_table, NULL, NULL, panda_version_match_table);
> 
> Is the only difference here the content of the ti,audio-routing
> property? If so, then I don't think there's any need for infra-structure
> for this; the driver code already reads that property and adjusts its
> behaviour based upon it.
> 
> I do see that "Headset Mic" exists only in one of the tables above.
> Perhaps the driver could scan the routing table, and only create the
> ASoC object for the headset if it's mentioned in the routing table?
> 
> If there are additional differences, then you can always use the .data
> field in of_device_id to automatically associate some configuration data
> with different compatible values.
> 
> Even better might be to extend the binding so that all HW differences
> are represented explicitly as properties; that way you wouldn't even
> need different compatible values.

I think that perhaps the choice of the SoC specific driver was unfortunate.

There are cases where a standard driver should be configured differently
depending on the board revision/model. In that case per-revision 
driver changes are out of the question.

Regards

-- Pantelis


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From: Pantelis Antoniou <panto-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
To: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Kevin Hilman <khilman-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Matt Porter <mporter-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Koen Kooi
	<koen-QLwJDigV5abLmq1fohREcCpxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Deepak Saxena <dsaxena-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Russ Dill <Russ.Dill-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Scott Wood <scottwood-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-omap-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Device Tree Overlays Proposal (Was Re: capebus moving omap_devices to mach-omap2)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 23:10:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37BFD75A-5A27-4E3F-A494-A0707E48B236@antoniou-consulting.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <509A9984.3000709-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>

Hi Stephen,

On Nov 7, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Stephen Warren wrote:

> On 11/07/2012 03:19 AM, Benoit Cousson wrote:
>> Hi Panto,
>> 
>> On 11/07/2012 09:13 AM, Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
>>> Hi Grant
>>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Pantelis Antoniou
>>>> <panto-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> [ snip ]
>>>> 
>>>> g.
>>> 
>>> Since we've started talking about longer term goals, and the versioning
>>> provision seems to stand, I hope we address how much the fragment versioning
>>> thing is similar to the way board revisions progress.
>>> 
>>> If a versioning syntax is available then one could create a single DT 
>>> file for a bunch of 'almost' similar board and board revisions.
>> 
>> I even think that the version issue is probably much more important for the short term than the overlay aspect. Well at least as important. We start having as well a bunch a panda board version with different HW setup.
>> 
>> Having a single board-XXX.dts that will support all these versions is probably the best approach to avoid choosing that from the bootloader.
>> 
>> We need to figure out a format + mechanism compatible with the current non-versioned format to allow filtering the nodes at runtime to keep only the relevant one.
>> 
>> Something that can find the driver that will provide the proper board version or subsystem version or whatever like that:
>> 
>> 	compatible-version = "ti,panda-version", "panda";
>> 
>> Then at runtime we should create only the node with the correct match between the driver version and the string version.
>> 
>> 
>> /* regular panda audio routing */
>> sound: sound {
>> 	compatible = "ti,abe-twl6040";
>> 	ti,model = "PandaBoard";
>> 	compatible-version = "ti,panda-version", "panda";
>> 
>> 	/* Audio routing */
>> 	ti,audio-routing =
>> 		"Headset Stereophone", "HSOL",
>> 		"Headset Stereophone", "HSOR",
>> 		"Ext Spk", "HFL",
>> 		"Ext Spk", "HFR",
>> 		"Line Out", "AUXL",
>> 		"Line Out", "AUXR",
>> 		"HSMIC", "Headset Mic",
>> 		"Headset Mic", "Headset Mic Bias",
>> 		"AFML", "Line In",
>> 		"AFMR", "Line In";
>> };
>> 
>> 
>> /* Audio routing is different between PandaBoard4430 and PandaBoardES */
>> &sound {
>> 	ti,model = "PandaBoardES";
>> 	compatible-version = "ti,panda-version", "panda-es";
>> 
>> 	/* Audio routing */
>> 	ti,audio-routing =
>> 		"Headset Stereophone", "HSOL",
>> 		"Headset Stereophone", "HSOR",
>> 		"Ext Spk", "HFL",
>> 		"Ext Spk", "HFR",
>> 		"Line Out", "AUXL",
>> 		"Line Out", "AUXR",
>> 		"AFML", "Line In",
>> 		"AFMR", "Line In";
>> };
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe some extra version match table can just be passed during the board machine_init 
>> 
>> 	of_platform_populate(NULL, omap_dt_match_table, NULL, NULL, panda_version_match_table);
> 
> Is the only difference here the content of the ti,audio-routing
> property? If so, then I don't think there's any need for infra-structure
> for this; the driver code already reads that property and adjusts its
> behaviour based upon it.
> 
> I do see that "Headset Mic" exists only in one of the tables above.
> Perhaps the driver could scan the routing table, and only create the
> ASoC object for the headset if it's mentioned in the routing table?
> 
> If there are additional differences, then you can always use the .data
> field in of_device_id to automatically associate some configuration data
> with different compatible values.
> 
> Even better might be to extend the binding so that all HW differences
> are represented explicitly as properties; that way you wouldn't even
> need different compatible values.

I think that perhaps the choice of the SoC specific driver was unfortunate.

There are cases where a standard driver should be configured differently
depending on the board revision/model. In that case per-revision 
driver changes are out of the question.

Regards

-- Pantelis

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-07 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-05 20:40 [RFC] Device Tree Overlays Proposal (Was Re: capebus moving omap_devices to mach-omap2) Grant Likely
2012-11-05 21:40 ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-11-05 21:40   ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-11-05 23:22   ` Tony Lindgren
2012-11-05 23:22     ` Tony Lindgren
2012-11-09 12:06     ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09 12:06       ` Grant Likely
2012-11-06  0:07   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-06  0:07     ` Grant Likely
2012-11-06 10:31   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-06 10:31     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 22:35   ` Ryan Mallon
2012-11-07 22:35     ` Ryan Mallon
2012-11-08 13:28     ` Koen Kooi
2012-11-08 13:28       ` Koen Kooi
2012-11-08 14:09       ` Timur Tabi
2012-11-08 14:09         ` Timur Tabi
2012-11-08 17:00       ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-08 17:00         ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-06 10:30 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-06 11:14   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-06 18:35     ` Tony Lindgren
2012-11-06 19:29       ` Russ Dill
2012-11-06 19:41         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-06 19:41           ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-06 22:17           ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-06 22:17             ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-06 19:34     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-06 20:45       ` Grant Likely
2012-11-06 20:50         ` Grant Likely
2012-11-07  8:06         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 15:33           ` Alan Tull
2012-11-07 15:33             ` Alan Tull
2012-11-09 17:03           ` Grant Likely
2012-11-07  8:13         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 10:19           ` Benoit Cousson
2012-11-07 10:19             ` Benoit Cousson
2012-11-07 11:02             ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 11:02               ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 11:12               ` Benoit Cousson
2012-11-07 11:12                 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-11-07 11:23                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 11:23                   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-09 20:33               ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 11:34                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 13:01                   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-07 17:25             ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-07 22:10               ` Pantelis Antoniou [this message]
2012-11-07 22:10                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-08 10:36               ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-11-08 10:36                 ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-11-09  5:32   ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-09 14:29     ` David Gibson
2012-11-10  3:15       ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-09 21:22     ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 11:47       ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 11:47         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13  3:59       ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-09 22:59     ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]   ` <-4237940489086529028@unknownmsgid>
     [not found]     ` <559B8433-67C3-4A1A-A5D6-859907655176@antoniou-consulting.com>
2012-11-10  3:36       ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-10  3:36         ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-12 12:48         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13  2:28         ` David Gibson
2012-11-06 22:37 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-06 22:37   ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-07  0:54   ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-07  0:54     ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-09 17:02     ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 11:29       ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07  8:47   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 17:18     ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-07 22:08       ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 22:08         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-09 16:28   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09 23:23     ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09 23:40       ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 10:53         ` Koen Kooi
2012-11-12 12:10       ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 12:10         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 16:52         ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13  7:25           ` David Gibson
2012-11-13  8:09             ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13  8:09               ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13 12:24               ` Grant Likely
2012-11-13 13:38                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13 13:38                   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-15  4:57                   ` David Gibson
2012-11-13 17:10               ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13 23:30               ` David Gibson
2012-11-13 23:30                 ` David Gibson
2012-11-14  0:00                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13 16:57             ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13 18:10               ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-13 18:10                 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-13 18:29                 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13 18:29                   ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13 19:09                   ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-13 19:11                     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-17 22:27       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-11-20 17:09         ` Grant Likely
2012-11-11 20:47     ` Rob Landley
2012-11-12 12:50       ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 16:54         ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 16:54           ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 11:23     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 16:49       ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 17:00         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 17:10           ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 17:19             ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 17:29               ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 17:38                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 20:16       ` Russ Dill
2012-11-12 16:45     ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09  2:26 ` David Gibson
2012-11-09 15:40   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13  0:03     ` David Gibson
2012-11-13  0:03       ` David Gibson
2012-11-09 21:08   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-13  0:05     ` David Gibson
2012-11-13  0:05       ` David Gibson
2012-11-09 21:42   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-13  1:05     ` David Gibson
2012-11-13  1:05       ` David Gibson
2012-11-13  5:22       ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13  6:54         ` David Gibson
2012-11-13  6:54           ` David Gibson
2012-11-09 22:57   ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09 23:27     ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 12:05     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-09 23:14   ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09 23:14     ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09 23:06 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09 23:32   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 11:03 ` Koen Kooi
2012-11-12 11:03   ` Koen Kooi

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