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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Yury Norov <ynorov@caviumnetworks.com>
Cc: catalin.marinas@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pinskia@gmail.com,
	ddaney.cavm@gmail.com, jan.dakinevich@gmail.com,
	Prasun.Kapoor@caviumnetworks.com,
	christoph.muellner@theobroma-systems.com,
	philipp.tomsich@theobroma-systems.com, broonie@kernel.org,
	andrey.konovalov@linaro.org, Nathan_Lynch@mentor.com,
	agraf@suse.de, bamvor.zhangjian@huawei.com,
	klimov.linux@gmail.com, joseph@codesourcery.com, schwab@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 14/19] arm64:ilp32: add sys_ilp32.c and a separate table (in entry.S) to use it
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 23:39:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12844690.Yr8y3jA010@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151201212904.GA14442@yury-N73SV>

On Wednesday 02 December 2015 00:29:04 Yury Norov wrote:
> > > +#define compat_sys_shmat               sys_shmat
> > 
> > What's special about compat_sys_shmat?
> > 
> 
> It's about  	 definition.
> For aarch32 glibc defines it as (__getpagesize () << 2).
> For ILP32 there's no definition, and so generic one is used: (__getpagesize ()).

Ok, got it.

> In kernel, for ARM64, COMPAT_SHMLBA defined just as 0x4000. Both
> compat and non-compat shmat syscalls pass identical arguments to
> do_shmat, except shmlba. Effectively, library expects shmlba to
> be 0x1000, as sys_shmat does. And compat_sys_shmat expects 0x4000.
> 
> I think, both kernel and library parts are to be fixed. In library
> we'd use definition identical to ARM. For kernel we'd use compat
> syscall.

I'm not sure I understand this part. What changes specifically do we need?

It sounds like shmat is one of the cases we an override makes sense
and we should use sys_shmat with PAGE_SIZE for aarch64 ilp32 mode.

> My question. Why aarch64 defines COMPAT_SHMLBA as 0x4000? If there's
> no specific reason for it, it looks like a bug, and we should
> define it like in arch/arm:
>         #define SHMLBA  (4 * PAGE_SIZE)          /* attach addr a multiple of this */
> 
> Maybe that's why AARCH32 is limited to 4K pages in config.

The reason why AARCH32 is limited to 4K pages is the alignment of
ELF sections, and with newer binutils versions, that is no longer
a problem, other than the bug you just found.

We normally assume that the page size on ARM is fixed to 4K, so
there might be user space that just hardcodes 16K SHMLBA rather
than using the glibc (__getpagesize () << 2) definition. Changing
the kernel would break those programs, but you can also argue that
they are already broken today.

	Arnd

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From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v6 14/19] arm64:ilp32: add sys_ilp32.c and a separate table (in entry.S) to use it
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 23:39:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12844690.Yr8y3jA010@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151201212904.GA14442@yury-N73SV>

On Wednesday 02 December 2015 00:29:04 Yury Norov wrote:
> > > +#define compat_sys_shmat               sys_shmat
> > 
> > What's special about compat_sys_shmat?
> > 
> 
> It's about  	 definition.
> For aarch32 glibc defines it as (__getpagesize () << 2).
> For ILP32 there's no definition, and so generic one is used: (__getpagesize ()).

Ok, got it.

> In kernel, for ARM64, COMPAT_SHMLBA defined just as 0x4000. Both
> compat and non-compat shmat syscalls pass identical arguments to
> do_shmat, except shmlba. Effectively, library expects shmlba to
> be 0x1000, as sys_shmat does. And compat_sys_shmat expects 0x4000.
> 
> I think, both kernel and library parts are to be fixed. In library
> we'd use definition identical to ARM. For kernel we'd use compat
> syscall.

I'm not sure I understand this part. What changes specifically do we need?

It sounds like shmat is one of the cases we an override makes sense
and we should use sys_shmat with PAGE_SIZE for aarch64 ilp32 mode.

> My question. Why aarch64 defines COMPAT_SHMLBA as 0x4000? If there's
> no specific reason for it, it looks like a bug, and we should
> define it like in arch/arm:
>         #define SHMLBA  (4 * PAGE_SIZE)          /* attach addr a multiple of this */
> 
> Maybe that's why AARCH32 is limited to 4K pages in config.

The reason why AARCH32 is limited to 4K pages is the alignment of
ELF sections, and with newer binutils versions, that is no longer
a problem, other than the bug you just found.

We normally assume that the page size on ARM is fixed to 4K, so
there might be user space that just hardcodes 16K SHMLBA rather
than using the glibc (__getpagesize () << 2) definition. Changing
the kernel would break those programs, but you can also argue that
they are already broken today.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-01 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-17 21:16 [RFC2 PATCH v6 00/19] ILP32 for ARM64 Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16 ` Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 01/19] arm64:ilp32: add documentation on the ILP32 ABI " Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-11-18  8:09   ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2015-11-18  8:09     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 02/19] arm64: ensure the kernel is compiled for LP64 Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 03/19] arm64: rename COMPAT to AARCH32_EL0 in Kconfig Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 04/19] arm64: change some CONFIG_COMPAT over to use CONFIG_AARCH32_EL0 instead Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-12-03 12:02   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-03 12:02     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-04 21:58     ` Yury Norov
2015-12-04 21:58       ` Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 05/19] arm64:uapi: set __BITS_PER_LONG correctly for ILP32 and LP64 Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-12-03 11:31   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-03 11:31     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-03 11:36     ` Dr. Philipp Tomsich
2015-12-03 11:36       ` Dr. Philipp Tomsich
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 06/19] arm64:ilp32: share signal structures between ILP32 and LP64 ABIs Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-11-17 22:14   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-17 22:14     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 07/19] arm64: introduce is_a32_task and is_a32_thread (for AArch32 compat) Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-12-03 12:13   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-03 12:13     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-04 17:05     ` Yury Norov
2015-12-04 17:05       ` Yury Norov
2015-12-05 11:00       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-05 11:00         ` Catalin Marinas
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 08/19] arm64:ilp32: add is_ilp32_compat_{task,thread} and TIF_32BIT_AARCH64 Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` [PATCH v6 08/19] arm64:ilp32: add is_ilp32_compat_{task, thread} " Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 09/19] arm64:ilp32: share HWCAP between LP64 and ILP32 Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 10/19] arm64:ilp32 use the native LP64 'start_thread' for ILP32 threads Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-12-03 12:20   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-03 12:20     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 11/19] arm64:ilp32: support core dump generation for ILP32 Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-12-03 16:39   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-03 16:39     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 12/19] ptrace: Allow compat to use the native siginfo Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 13/19] arm64: ilp32: common 32-bit wrappers Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 14/19] arm64:ilp32: add sys_ilp32.c and a separate table (in entry.S) to use it Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:57   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-17 21:57     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-18  8:14     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-18  8:14       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-19 13:21     ` Andreas Schwab
2015-11-19 13:21       ` Andreas Schwab
2015-11-19 13:32       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-19 13:32         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-30 15:34     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-30 15:34       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-30 20:21       ` Yury Norov
2015-11-30 20:21         ` Yury Norov
2015-11-30 21:49         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-30 21:49           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-01  0:20           ` Andrew Pinski
2015-12-01  0:20             ` Andrew Pinski
2015-12-01  0:40           ` Yury Norov
2015-12-01  0:40             ` Yury Norov
2015-12-01 10:26             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-01 10:26               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-01  9:20         ` Andreas Schwab
2015-12-01  9:20           ` Andreas Schwab
2015-12-01 10:22           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-01 10:22             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-01 11:01             ` Andreas Schwab
2015-12-01 11:01               ` Andreas Schwab
2015-12-01 11:30               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-01 11:30                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-02  0:24                 ` Yury Norov
2015-12-02  0:24                   ` Yury Norov
2015-12-02 10:03                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-02 10:03                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-03 17:17                   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-03 17:17                     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-01 21:29     ` Yury Norov
2015-12-01 21:29       ` Yury Norov
2015-12-01 22:39       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2015-12-01 22:39         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-01 23:35         ` Yury Norov
2015-12-01 23:35           ` Yury Norov
2015-12-02  8:37           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-02  8:37             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-02  9:15             ` Yury Norov
2015-12-02  9:15               ` Yury Norov
2015-12-02 10:35             ` Yury Norov
2015-12-02 10:35               ` Yury Norov
2015-12-02 13:46               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-02 13:46                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-02 13:54                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-02 13:54                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-02 13:57                   ` Will Deacon
2015-12-02 13:57                     ` Will Deacon
2015-12-03 17:47       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-03 17:47         ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-03 18:14         ` Yury Norov
2015-12-03 18:14           ` Yury Norov
2015-12-03 20:42           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-03 20:42             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-02 10:01     ` Yury Norov
2015-12-02 10:01       ` Yury Norov
2015-12-02 11:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-02 11:03         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 15/19] arm64: ilp32: force IPC_64 in msgctl, shmctl, semctl Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-11-17 22:07   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-17 22:07     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-18  8:25     ` Andreas Schwab
2015-11-18  8:25       ` Andreas Schwab
2015-11-18  9:23       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-18  9:23         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-18 10:07         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-11-18 10:07           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-11-18 12:04           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-18 12:04             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 16/19] aarch64: ilp32: use generic stat64 structure Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-11-17 22:09   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-17 22:09     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-18 20:36     ` Yury Norov
2015-11-18 20:36       ` Yury Norov
2015-11-18 20:45       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-18 20:45         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 17/19] arm64:ilp32: use the native siginfo instead of the compat siginfo Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 18/19] arm64:ilp32: change COMPAT_ELF_PLATFORM to report a a subplatform for ILP32 Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-11-18  8:11   ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2015-11-18  8:11     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2015-11-18 11:21     ` pinskia
2015-11-18 11:21       ` pinskia at gmail.com
2015-11-18 20:25       ` Yury Norov
2015-11-18 20:25         ` Yury Norov
2015-11-18 21:47         ` Dr. Philipp Tomsich
2015-11-18 21:47           ` Dr. Philipp Tomsich
2015-11-17 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 19/19] arm64:ilp32: add ARM64_ILP32 to Kconfig Yury Norov
2015-11-17 21:16   ` Yury Norov
2015-11-18  8:00 ` [RFC2 PATCH v6 00/19] ILP32 for ARM64 Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2015-11-18  8:00   ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2015-11-23 16:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-11-23 16:49   ` Andreas Schwab
2015-12-03 17:59 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-03 17:59   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-04 15:35   ` Yury Norov
2015-12-04 15:35     ` Yury Norov
2015-12-04 17:18     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-04 17:18       ` Catalin Marinas

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