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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linux390@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] virtio: Clean up scatterlists and use the DMA API
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:16:54 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1409609814.30640.11.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1409593066.git.luto@amacapital.net>

On Mon, 2014-09-01 at 10:39 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> Changes from v1:
>  - Using the DMA API is optional now.  It would be nice to improve the
>    DMA API to the point that it could be used unconditionally, but s390
>    proves that we're not there yet.
>  - Includes patch 4, which fixes DMA debugging warnings from virtio_net.

I'm not sure if you saw my reply on the other thread but I have a few
comments based on the above "it would be nice if ..."

So here we have both a yes and a no :-)

It would be nice to avoid those if () games all over and indeed just
use the DMA API, *however* we most certainly don't want to actually
create IOMMU mappings for the KVM virio case. This would be a massive
loss in performances on several platforms and generally doesn't make
much sense.

However, we can still use the API without that on any architecture
where the dma mapping API ends up calling the generic dma_map_ops,
it becomes just a matter of virtio setting up some special "nop" ops
when needed.

The difficulty here resides in the fact that we have never completely
made the dma_map_ops generic. The ops themselves are defined generically
as are the dma_map_* interfaces based on them, but the location of the
ops pointer is still more/less arch specific and some architectures
still chose not to use that indirection at all I believe.

Cheers,
Ben.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-01 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-01 17:39 [PATCH v4 0/4] virtio: Clean up scatterlists and use the DMA API Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-01 17:39 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] virtio_ring: Support DMA APIs if requested Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-01 17:39 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] virtio_pci: Use the DMA API for virtqueues Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-01 17:39 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] virtio_net: Don't set the end flag on reusable sg entries Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-01 17:39 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] virtio_net: Stop doing DMA from the stack Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-01 22:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2014-09-02  5:55   ` [PATCH v4 0/4] virtio: Clean up scatterlists and use the DMA API Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-02 20:53     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-02 20:56       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-02 21:08         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-02 21:37       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-02 22:10         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-02 23:11           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-02 23:20             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-02 23:42               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-03  0:25                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-03  0:32                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-03  0:43                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-04  2:03                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-03  7:47                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-03  7:52                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-03  8:01                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-03  8:05                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-03 12:11                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-03 15:07                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-03 15:11                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-03 16:39                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03 20:38                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-03  7:43               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-03  6:42         ` Rusty Russell
2014-09-03  7:50           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05  2:31             ` Rusty Russell
2014-09-05  2:57               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05  5:20                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-05  7:33                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2014-09-10 15:36                 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-10 16:15                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05  5:16               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-14  8:58               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03 12:51           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-05  2:32             ` Rusty Russell
2014-09-05  3:06               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-02 21:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-02 21:49       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28  1:08 Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28  7:05 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-07-28  7:05 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-07-28  8:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28  8:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 10:12   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-28 10:12   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-28 12:46     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 13:06       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-28 13:06       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-28 13:11         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 16:11           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 16:44             ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 16:44             ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 17:10               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 17:10               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 17:17                 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 17:17                 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 18:22                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 18:22                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 19:06                     ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 19:06                     ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 19:24                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 19:24                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 19:33                         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 21:16                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 21:16                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 22:43                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 22:43                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 23:21                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-28 23:33                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 23:33                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29  0:36                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-29  0:36                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-29  0:47                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29  0:47                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29  0:54                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-29  0:54                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-29  8:17                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-29  8:20                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-29  8:20                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-29  9:21                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-29  9:21                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-29  8:17                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-29  8:07                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-29  8:07                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 23:21                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-28 19:33                         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 16:11           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 16:36           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 16:36           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 16:42             ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 17:15               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 17:15               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 17:19                 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 17:19                 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 17:31                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 17:31                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 16:42             ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 13:11         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 12:46     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 13:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-28 13:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-28  1:08 Andy Lutomirski

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