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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	xen-devel <Xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	"linux390@de.ibm.com" <linux390@de.ibm.com>,
	Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] virtio: Clean up scatterlists and use the DMA API
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:31:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55B7BC8F.9000108__10874.4513280273$1438104828$gmane$org@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B7B992.8070509@siemens.com>



On 28/07/2015 19:19, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2015-07-28 19:15, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 28/07/2015 18:42, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>> On the other hand interrupt remapping is absolutely necessary for
>>>> production use, hence my point that x86 does not promise API stability.
>>>
>>> Well, we currently implement the features that the Q35 used to expose.
>>> Adding interrupt remapping will require a new chipset and/or a hack
>>> switch to ignore compatibility.
>>
>> Isn't the VT-d register space separate from other Q35 features and
>> backwards-compatible?  You could even add it to PIIX in theory just by
>> adding a DMAR.
> 
> Yes, it's practically working, but it's not accurate /wrt how that
> hardware looked like in reality.

We've done that for a long time.  Real PIIX3 didn't have ACPI too, for
example (and it had a USB UHCI that is optional in QEMU).

Of course I'm not advocating adding the IOMMU to PIIX (assuming that
would work even just practically)... but I don't think adding interrupt
remapping to Q35 is a big deal.  It would be optional, just in case you
want to debug something without interrupt remapping, but it can be added.

>>>> The Google patches for userspace PIC and IOAPIC are proceeding well, so
>>>> hopefully we can have interrupt remapping soon.
>>>
>>> If the day had 48 hours... I'd love to look into this, first adding QEMU
>>> support for the new irqchip architecture.
>>
>> I hope I can squeeze in some time for that...  Google also had an intern
>> that was looking at it.
> 
> Great!

In theory it's easy with the latest series.  All you need is support for
converting IOAPIC routes to KVM routes (and of course the glue code to
enable the capability and create the userspace devices); everything else
should work just by reusing the -machine kernel_irqchip=on code.  In
theory...

Paolo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-28 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-28  1:08 [PATCH v4 0/4] virtio: Clean up scatterlists and use the DMA API Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28  7:05 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-07-28  7:05 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-07-28  8:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28  8:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 10:12   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-28 10:12   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-28 12:46     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 13:06       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-28 13:06       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-28 13:11         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 16:11           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 16:44             ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 16:44             ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 17:10               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 17:10               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 17:17                 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 17:17                 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 18:22                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 18:22                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 19:06                     ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 19:06                     ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 19:24                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 19:24                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 19:33                         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 21:16                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 21:16                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 22:43                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 22:43                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 23:21                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-28 23:33                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 23:33                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29  0:36                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-29  0:36                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-29  0:47                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29  0:47                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29  0:54                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-29  0:54                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-29  8:17                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-29  8:20                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-29  8:20                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-29  9:21                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-29  9:21                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-29  8:17                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-29  8:07                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-29  8:07                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 23:21                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-28 19:33                         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 16:11           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 16:36           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 16:36           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 16:42             ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 17:15               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 17:15               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 17:19                 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 17:19                 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 17:31                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 17:31                   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2015-07-28 16:42             ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 13:11         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 12:46     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-28 13:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-28 13:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-07-28  1:08 Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-01 17:39 Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-01 22:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-02  5:55   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-02 20:53     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-02 20:56       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-02 21:08         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-02 21:37       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-02 22:10         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-02 23:11           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-02 23:20             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-02 23:42               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-03  0:25                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-03  0:32                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-03  0:43                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-04  2:03                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-03  7:47                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-03  7:52                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-03  8:01                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-03  8:05                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-03 12:11                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-03 15:07                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-03 15:11                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-03 16:39                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03 20:38                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-03  7:43               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-03  6:42         ` Rusty Russell
2014-09-03  7:50           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05  2:31             ` Rusty Russell
2014-09-05  2:57               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05  5:20                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-05  7:33                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2014-09-10 15:36                 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-10 16:15                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-05  5:16               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-09-14  8:58               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03 12:51           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-05  2:32             ` Rusty Russell
2014-09-05  3:06               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-02 21:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-02 21:49       ` Andy Lutomirski

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