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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Andrew Vagin <avagin-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: James Bottomley
	<James.Bottomley-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrey Vagin <avagin-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Serge Hallyn
	<serge.hallyn-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Alexander Viro
	<viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
	criu-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman"
	<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5 RFC] Add an interface to discover relationships between namespaces
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:48:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1515f5f2-5a49-fcab-61f4-8b627d3ba3e2@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160721210650.GA10989-1ViLX0X+lBJGNQ1M2rI3KwRV3xvJKrda@public.gmane.org>

Hi Andrey,

On 07/21/2016 11:06 PM, Andrew Vagin wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 04:41:12PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> Hi Andrey,
>>
>> On 07/14/2016 08:20 PM, Andrey Vagin wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>
>> Could you add here an of the API in detail: what do these FDs refer to,
>> and how do you use them to solve the use case? And could you you add
>> that info to the commit messages please.
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> A patch for man-pages is attached. It adds the following text to
> namespaces(7).
>
> Since  Linux 4.X, the following ioctl(2) calls are supported for names‐
> pace file descriptors.  The correct syntax is:
>
>       fd = ioctl(ns_fd, ioctl_type);
>
> where ioctl_type is one of the following:
>
> NS_GET_USERNS
>       Returns a file descriptor that refers to an owning  user  names‐
>       pace.
>
> NS_GET_PARENT
>       Returns  a  file  descriptor  that refers to a parent namespace.
>       This ioctl(2) can be used for pid and user namespaces. For  user
>       namespaces,  NS_GET_PARENT and NS_GET_USERNS have the same mean‐
>       ing.
>
> In addition to generic ioctl(2) errors, the following specific ones can
> occur:
>
> EINVAL NS_GET_PARENT was called for a nonhierarchical namespace.
>
> EPERM  The  requested  namespace  is  outside  of the current namespace
>       scope.
>
> ENOENT ns_fd refers to the init namespace.

Thanks for this. But still part of the question remains unanswered.
How do we (in user-space) use the file descriptors to answer any of
the questions that this patch series was designed to solve? (This
info should be in the commit message and the man-pages patch.)

Thanks,

Michael


>>> [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/7/6/158
>>> [2] https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/7/9/101
>>>
>>> Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
>>> Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
>>> Cc: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: "W. Trevor King" <wking@tremily.us>
>>> Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
>>> Cc: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>
>>>
>>> --
>>> 2.5.5
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Kerrisk
>> Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
>> Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-22  6:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-14 18:20 [PATCH 0/5 RFC] Add an interface to discover relationships between namespaces Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:20 ` Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:20 ` [PATCH 1/5] namespaces: move user_ns into ns_common Andrey Vagin
     [not found]   ` <1468520419-28220-2-git-send-email-avagin-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-15 12:21     ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-15 12:21       ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-14 18:20 ` [PATCH 3/5] nsfs: add ioctl to get an owning user namespace for ns file descriptor Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:48   ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-14 18:48     ` W. Trevor King
     [not found]   ` <1468520419-28220-4-git-send-email-avagin-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-14 18:48     ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-14 22:02 ` [PATCH 0/5 RFC] Add an interface to discover relationships between namespaces Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 22:02   ` Andrey Vagin
2016-07-24  5:10   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24  5:10     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87poq3liyq.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-26  2:07       ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-26  2:07         ` Andrew Vagin
     [not found]   ` <CANaxB-xw_xBUq=0uT14ANv-jfg2NsGaPy=jyDO9=yF03_7toSw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-15  2:12     ` [PATCH 1/5] namespaces: move user_ns into ns_common Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15  2:12       ` Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15  2:12       ` [PATCH 4/5] nsfs: add ioctl to get a parent namespace Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15  2:12         ` Andrey Vagin
     [not found]         ` <1468548742-32136-4-git-send-email-avagin-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-24  5:07           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24  5:07         ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24  5:07           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-15  2:12       ` [PATCH 5/5] tools/testing: add a test to check nsfs ioctl-s Andrey Vagin
     [not found]       ` <1468548742-32136-1-git-send-email-avagin-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-15  2:12         ` [PATCH 2/5] kernel: add a helper to get an owning user namespace for a namespace Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15  2:12           ` Andrey Vagin
     [not found]           ` <1468548742-32136-2-git-send-email-avagin-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-24  5:03             ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24 16:54             ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-24 16:54               ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-24  5:03           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24  5:03             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <878twrmxu2.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-24  6:37               ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-24  6:37                 ` Andrew Vagin
     [not found]                 ` <20160724063728.GA17810-1ViLX0X+lBJGNQ1M2rI3KwRV3xvJKrda@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-24 14:30                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24 14:30                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24 14:30                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                   ` <87shuzglck.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-24 17:05                     ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-24 17:05                       ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-15  2:12         ` [PATCH 3/5] nsfs: add ioctl to get an owning user namespace for ns file descriptor Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15  2:12           ` Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15  2:12         ` [PATCH 4/5] nsfs: add ioctl to get a parent namespace Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15  2:12         ` [PATCH 5/5] tools/testing: add a test to check nsfs ioctl-s Andrey Vagin
2016-07-16  8:21         ` [PATCH 1/5] namespaces: move user_ns into ns_common kbuild test robot
2016-07-16  8:21           ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-23 23:07         ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-23 23:07           ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-24  5:00         ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24  5:00       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24  5:00         ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24  5:54         ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-24  5:54           ` Andrew Vagin
     [not found]         ` <87k2gbmy02.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-24  5:54           ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-24  5:54             ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-24  5:54           ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-24  5:54             ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-24  5:54         ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-24  5:54           ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-24  5:10     ` [PATCH 0/5 RFC] Add an interface to discover relationships between namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-21 14:41 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-21 14:41   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]   ` <c9bdaf3d-ec93-d754-81ac-9f524a0d0954-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-21 21:06     ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-21 21:06       ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-21 21:06       ` Andrew Vagin
     [not found]       ` <20160721210650.GA10989-1ViLX0X+lBJGNQ1M2rI3KwRV3xvJKrda@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-22  6:48         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
     [not found]           ` <1515f5f2-5a49-fcab-61f4-8b627d3ba3e2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-22 18:25             ` Andrey Vagin
2016-07-22 18:25               ` Andrey Vagin
2016-07-25 11:47               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-25 11:47                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                 ` <e2811bf1-4b86-e115-bcdb-301d6f2546eb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-25 13:18                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-25 13:18                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <87lh0pg8jx.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-25 14:46                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-25 14:46                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                         ` <44ca0e41-dc92-45b1-2a6c-c41a048a072d-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-25 14:54                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-07-25 14:59                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-25 14:59                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                             ` <87r3ahepb4.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-26  2:54                               ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-26  2:54                                 ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-26  8:03                                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-26  8:03                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                   ` <3390535b-0660-757f-aeba-c03d936b3485-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-26 18:25                                     ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-26 18:25                                       ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-26 18:32                                       ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-26 18:32                                         ` W. Trevor King
     [not found]                                         ` <20160726183224.GN24913-q4NCUed9G3sTnwFZoN752g@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-26 19:11                                           ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-26 19:11                                             ` Andrew Vagin
     [not found]                                       ` <20160726182524.GA328-1ViLX0X+lBJGNQ1M2rI3KwRV3xvJKrda@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-26 18:32                                         ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-26 19:17                                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-26 19:17                                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                         ` <CAKgNAkjmOu+vfiMDyeYQkkf7wQBH9PVmJ4nH2CTg43GrN-k7eA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-26 20:39                                           ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-26 20:39                                             ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-28 10:45                                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-28 10:45                                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                               ` <ca0787a3-b270-e962-46d1-7e63c9335a55-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-28 12:56                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-28 12:56                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-28 19:00                                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-29 18:05                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-29 18:05                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                       ` <87h9b8e2v7.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-31 21:31                                                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-31 21:31                                                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-08-01 23:01                                                         ` Andrew Vagin
2016-08-01 23:01                                                           ` Andrew Vagin
     [not found]                                                     ` <40e35f1a-10e6-b7a5-936e-a09f008be0d0-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-29 18:05                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                   ` <87popxkjjp.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-28 19:00                                                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                             ` <20160726203955.GA9415-1ViLX0X+lBJGNQ1M2rI3KwRV3xvJKrda@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-28 10:45                                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                 ` <20160726025455.GC26206-1ViLX0X+lBJGNQ1M2rI3KwRV3xvJKrda@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-26  8:03                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-26 19:38                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-26 19:38                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-25 14:54                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-07-25 14:54                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-07-25 15:17                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-25 15:17                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                           ` <20160725145445.GA19879-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-25 15:17                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]               ` <CANaxB-w8H8Wo8FmtmBBZTpJX-ZDGRQx0rbm9E5c9WbduQ_Ukmw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-25 11:47                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found] ` <1468520419-28220-1-git-send-email-avagin-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-14 18:20   ` [PATCH 1/5] namespaces: move user_ns into ns_common Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:20   ` [PATCH 2/5] kernel: add a helper to get an owning user namespace for a namespace Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:20     ` Andrey Vagin
     [not found]     ` <1468520419-28220-3-git-send-email-avagin-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-14 19:07       ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-14 19:07         ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-14 18:20   ` [PATCH 3/5] nsfs: add ioctl to get an owning user namespace for ns file descriptor Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:20   ` [PATCH 4/5] nsfs: add ioctl to get a parent namespace Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:20     ` Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:20   ` [PATCH 5/5] tools/testing: add a test to check nsfs ioctl-s Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:20     ` Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 22:02   ` [PATCH 0/5 RFC] Add an interface to discover relationships between namespaces Andrey Vagin
2016-07-21 14:41   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-23 21:14   ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-23 21:14     ` W. Trevor King
     [not found]     ` <20160723211414.GA25371-q4NCUed9G3sTnwFZoN752g@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-23 21:38       ` James Bottomley
2016-07-23 21:38         ` James Bottomley
     [not found]         ` <1469309936.2332.35.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-23 21:58           ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-23 21:58         ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-23 21:58           ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-23 21:56           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-23 21:56             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87mvl8nhlv.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-23 22:34               ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-23 22:34                 ` W. Trevor King
     [not found]                 ` <20160723223448.GP24913-q4NCUed9G3sTnwFZoN752g@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-24  4:51                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24  4:51                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]           ` <20160723215802.GO24913-q4NCUed9G3sTnwFZoN752g@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-23 21:56             ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-08-01 18:20   ` Alban Crequy
2016-08-01 18:20     ` Alban Crequy
     [not found]     ` <CAMXgnP6j+rTeb5XJgoPV20y8puGyVm=9O9gdg9Sah4DuF5qm9w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-01 23:32       ` Andrew Vagin
2016-08-01 23:32         ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-14 18:20 Andrey Vagin

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