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From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bitkeeper
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:27:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030718222702.GC658@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1058563409.19511.74.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk>

On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 02:08:32PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote:
> 	My understanding of the relevant case law in the United States is that
> these types of restrictions are not allowed under copyright law itself.

On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 10:23:30PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> Actually your license is simply irrelevant in most of thre world. You
> aren't allowed to forbid reverse engineering for interoperability.

    "Judge, I want to violate this license on this product that I got
    for free because it's not free enough".

    "Judge, we give it out for free and we also developed technology
    to transfer the data out of our product and into a GPLed product,
    we do that at our expense and even host the competing GPLed repos
    for free and they still want to violate the license"

Who do you think is going to win that one?

Besides, have you considered that it is that license you appear to
dislike so much which provides for the product, the hosting, the free
public machines, the support, all of that?  It's a pile of money and
time and I don't see RMS steppng forward with an open checkbook.

The license means we have a revenue stream.  We use a significant portion
of that revenue stream to help Linux.  If the revenue stream goes away
then so do the services we provide to you for free.  They obviously
have value or you wouldn't be using them.  
-- 
---
Larry McVoy              lm at bitmover.com          http://www.bitmover.com/lm

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-07-18 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-18 19:51 Bitkeeper Richard Stallman
2003-07-18 20:06 ` Bitkeeper Rik van Riel
2003-07-18 20:22   ` Bitkeeper nick
2003-07-18 20:40     ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 21:28     ` Bitkeeper Alan Cox
2003-07-19 23:45       ` Bitkeeper Pavel Machek
2003-07-20  0:23         ` Bitkeeper Jeff Garzik
2003-07-18 20:32   ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 20:44     ` Bitkeeper Rik van Riel
2003-07-19 18:42     ` Bitkeeper Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-19 18:49       ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 18:57         ` Bitkeeper Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-19 19:05           ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 20:02             ` Bitkeeper Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-18 20:09 ` Bitkeeper Trever L. Adams
2003-07-18 20:44   ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 21:03   ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-18 21:58     ` Bitkeeper Trever L. Adams
2003-07-18 22:17   ` Bitkeeper Mike Fedyk
2003-07-18 22:39     ` Bitkeeper Alan Cox
2003-07-19  8:20       ` Bitkeeper Eric W. Biederman
2003-07-19 15:34         ` Bitkeeper Mark Mielke
2003-07-18 22:29   ` Bitkeeper Scott Robert Ladd
2003-07-18 20:30 ` Bitkeeper Michael Buesch
2003-07-18 20:36   ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 20:44 ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-18 21:03   ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 21:08   ` Bitkeeper David Schwartz
2003-07-18 21:28     ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 21:23   ` Bitkeeper Alan Cox
2003-07-18 21:50     ` Bitkeeper David Lang
2003-07-18 21:54     ` Bitkeeper Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-07-18 22:16       ` Bitkeeper Alan Cox
2003-07-18 22:01     ` Bitkeeper Trever L. Adams
2003-07-18 22:27     ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2003-07-19  9:45       ` Bitkeeper Marcus Metzler
2003-07-19 20:42       ` Bitkeeper Adrian Bunk
2003-07-19 21:57         ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 22:28           ` Bitkeeper Adrian Bunk
2003-07-19 22:39             ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 23:45               ` Bitkeeper Adrian Bunk
2003-07-20  0:02                 ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-20  0:10                   ` Bitkeeper Tupshin Harper
2003-07-20  0:26                     ` Bitkeeper Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-07-20  1:11                       ` Bitkeeper Jeff Garzik
2003-07-20  0:23                   ` Bitkeeper Jeff Garzik
2003-07-20  0:28                   ` Bitkeeper jiho
2003-07-20  0:30                   ` Bitkeeper Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-07-20  0:50                     ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-20  0:22                 ` Bitkeeper Jeff Garzik
     [not found]               ` <3F19DA04.80809@c-zone.net>
     [not found]                 ` <20030719235526.GA31428@work.bitmover.com>
2003-07-20  0:21                   ` Bitkeeper jiho
2003-07-19 23:57       ` Bitkeeper Pavel Machek
2003-07-18 21:06 ` Bitkeeper Jörn Engel
2003-07-18 22:00   ` Bitkeeper Svein Ove Aas
2003-07-18 22:25     ` BK is not heaven, sure [Was: Re: Bitkeeper] J.A. Magallon
2003-07-18 23:50 ` Bitkeeper James Simmons
2003-07-19  1:05   ` offtopic crap (was Re: Bitkeeper) David S. Miller
2003-07-19 15:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-20  2:50 ` Bitkeeper Zack Brown
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-07 16:23 BitKeeper Amit Vijairania
2006-03-07 17:51 ` BitKeeper Yoanis Gil Delgado
2006-03-07 17:08   ` BitKeeper Amit Vijairania
2006-03-07 18:15     ` BitKeeper Yoanis Gil Delgado
2006-03-07 18:33       ` BitKeeper Hans Reiser
2006-03-07 18:31   ` BitKeeper Hans Reiser
2006-03-07 22:27     ` BitKeeper Peter van Hardenberg
2005-04-07 22:03 Bitkeeper Paul Dorman
2005-04-07 22:18 ` Bitkeeper Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-04-07 23:26   ` Bitkeeper Tupshin Harper
2005-04-07 23:53     ` Bitkeeper Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-04-07 23:55     ` Bitkeeper Scott Parish
2005-04-08  0:21       ` Bitkeeper Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-04-08  0:21         ` Bitkeeper Scott Parish
2005-04-08  6:55         ` Bitkeeper Chris Wright
2005-04-10 15:34         ` Bitkeeper Sean Perry
2005-04-11  6:54           ` Bitkeeper Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-04-12  0:21             ` Bitkeeper David Hopwood
2004-08-16 22:21 Bitkeeper Brown, Len
2004-08-16 21:43 Bitkeeper Nathan Bryant
2003-07-19 16:00 Bitkeeper John Bradford
2003-07-19 16:17 ` Bitkeeper Mark Mielke
2003-07-19 10:33 Bitkeeper John Bradford
2003-02-15  8:21 BitKeeper John Bradford
2003-02-15 22:26 ` BitKeeper Pavel Machek
2003-02-16 11:40   ` BitKeeper John Bradford
2002-10-14 15:11 bitkeeper Cameron, Steve
2002-10-14 15:14 ` bitkeeper Cort Dougan
2002-10-14 15:25 ` bitkeeper Hollis Blanchard
2002-10-15  8:45   ` bitkeeper fred
2002-10-15  9:47     ` bitkeeper Kenneth Johansson

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