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From: "Robert L. Harris" <Robert.L.Harris@rdlg.net>
To: M?ns Rullg?rd <mru@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: devfs vs. udev
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:23:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031007142349.GX1223@rdlg.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yw1xekxpdtuq.fsf@users.sourceforge.net>

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Thus spake M?ns Rullg?rd (mru@users.sourceforge.net):

> Andreas Jellinghaus <aj@dungeon.inka.de> writes:
> 
> >> I noticed this in the help text for devfs in 2.6.0-test6:
> >> 
> >> 	  Note that devfs has been obsoleted by udev,
> >
> > devfs works fine, lists all devices, and obsoletes makedev.
> 
> That's my experience.

Same here but read on.

> > udev needs patching for several issues, current sysfs only exports
> > many but by far not all devices, and because of that makedev
> > is still needed to create an initial /dev.
> >
> > in short: devfs works fine. udev has quite a way to go.
> > so marking devfs obsolete was done too soon by far. but
> 
> Exactly my point.
> 
> I'd also like an explanation of the rationale behind the switch.
> devfs works and is stable.  Why replace it with an incomplete fragile
> userspace solution?  I recall reading something about the original
> author not updating devfs recently, but I can't see why that requires
> rewriting it from scratch.

As a pro-devfs person I felt the same and hate to say it but "read the
archives".  Someone gave a good writeup on the problems with devfs and
how udev will (eventually) solve them.

I just hope udev can give a look/feel similar to devfs as I have quite a
few machines already in production configured for devfs and really like
the manageablility.

:wq!
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-07 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-07 12:38 devfs vs. udev Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 13:41 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-10-07 14:07   ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 14:23     ` Robert L. Harris [this message]
2003-10-07 14:29       ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 16:06       ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-10-07 16:11         ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 16:14         ` Robert L. Harris
2003-10-07 16:54         ` Hugo Mills
2003-10-07 17:19           ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 17:47             ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:49           ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:58             ` Hugo Mills
2003-10-07 18:10               ` Greg KH
2003-10-09 13:43             ` Ian Kent
2003-10-09 20:54               ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:55     ` Greg KH
2003-10-14 13:51     ` Ian Kent
2003-10-17  4:34       ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:54   ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 14:01 ` tabris
2003-10-07 17:53 ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 18:24   ` viro
2003-12-23 11:51 DevFS " Bradley W. Allen
2003-12-23 12:06 ` Duncan Sands
2003-12-23 12:12 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-23 12:37   ` Marcelo Bezerra
2003-12-23 13:02     ` Ed Tomlinson
2003-12-25 12:11     ` Kai Henningsen
2003-12-23 14:30 ` Paul Dickson
2003-12-23 23:23   ` Bradley W. Allen
2003-12-23 23:46     ` Brett
2003-12-24  4:01     ` alex.g.goddard.1
2003-12-23 16:19 ` Ian Kent
2003-12-23 17:34   ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-23 22:02     ` Greg KH
2003-12-23 22:13       ` Tomasz Torcz
2003-12-24  0:45       ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-24  1:07         ` Greg KH
2003-12-24  1:28           ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-23 21:59 ` Greg KH
2003-12-24  1:52   ` Ian Kent
2003-12-24  2:03     ` Rob Love
2003-12-24  2:21       ` Ian Kent
2003-12-24  2:22         ` Rob Love
2003-12-24  2:32           ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-12-24  2:39             ` Rob Love
2003-12-24  2:38     ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-24  3:41       ` viro
2003-12-24 11:33         ` Witukind
2003-12-24  4:13 ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-24  4:38   ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-12-24 11:15     ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-24 13:44       ` Ian Soboroff
2003-12-24 14:17         ` Xavier Bestel

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