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From: Ed Tomlinson <edt@aei.ca>
To: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: DevFS vs. udev
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:02:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200312230802.19901.edt@aei.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1072183068.1204.2.camel@ham>

On December 23, 2003 07:37 am, Marcelo Bezerra wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 09:12, Xavier Bestel wrote:
>
> > Le mar 23/12/2003 à 12:51, Bradley W. Allen a écrit :
> >
> > > DevFS was written by an articulate person who solved a lot of
> > > problems.  udev sounds more like a thug who's smug about winning,
> > > not explaining himself, saying things like "oh, the other guy
> > > disappeared, so who cares, you have to use my code, too bad it sucks".
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > I've spent two hours on this problem, and that's absurd; 
> >
> > 
> > Man, you've convinced me ! 
> > You've spent *two* hours on this problem ?  Woah, these K-H and Viro
> > guys must be dorks if they don't subscribe to your theories. Who are
> > they to think their opinion matters more than yours, who spent *two*
> > hours on this problem ?
> > 
> > Are you the new DevFS's maintainer ?
>
> In spite you trying to make him sound foolish, I still think he has some
> good points. DevFS works great and it never did something that was
> broken for me, so I see no point in replacing it. Maybe Greg K-H and Al
> Viro can step in an enlighten us once and for all.

They have.  There are technical reasons.  From a technical point of view devfs
is _broken_ and cannot be fixed without major efforts.  It has be discovered 
that things can be done in user space (udev 10 had to be slowed down - it
was too fast and the kernel was not keeping up...).  So devfs was made
obsolete.

Not listening or like the reasons does not change them.

Ed Tomlinson

  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-23 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-23 11:51 DevFS vs. udev Bradley W. Allen
2003-12-23 12:06 ` Duncan Sands
2003-12-23 12:12 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-23 12:37   ` Marcelo Bezerra
2003-12-23 13:02     ` Ed Tomlinson [this message]
2003-12-25 12:11     ` Kai Henningsen
2003-12-23 14:30 ` Paul Dickson
2003-12-23 23:23   ` Bradley W. Allen
2003-12-23 23:46     ` Brett
2003-12-24  4:01     ` alex.g.goddard.1
2003-12-23 16:19 ` Ian Kent
2003-12-23 17:34   ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-23 22:02     ` Greg KH
2003-12-23 22:13       ` Tomasz Torcz
2003-12-24  0:45       ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-24  1:07         ` Greg KH
2003-12-24  1:22           ` memory mapping help - oracle stack dumps Paul
2003-12-27 21:13             ` Francois Romieu
2003-12-24  1:28           ` DevFS vs. udev Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-23 21:59 ` Greg KH
2003-12-24  1:52   ` Ian Kent
2003-12-24  2:03     ` Rob Love
2003-12-24  2:21       ` Ian Kent
2003-12-24  2:22         ` Rob Love
2003-12-24  2:32           ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-12-24  2:39             ` Rob Love
2003-12-24  2:38     ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-24  3:41       ` viro
2003-12-24 11:33         ` Witukind
2003-12-24  4:13 ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-24  4:38   ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-12-24 11:15     ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-24 13:44       ` Ian Soboroff
2003-12-24 14:17         ` Xavier Bestel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-07 12:38 devfs " Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 13:41 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-10-07 14:07   ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 14:23     ` Robert L. Harris
2003-10-07 14:29       ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 16:06       ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-10-07 16:11         ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 16:14         ` Robert L. Harris
2003-10-07 16:54         ` Hugo Mills
2003-10-07 17:19           ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 17:47             ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:49           ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:58             ` Hugo Mills
2003-10-07 18:10               ` Greg KH
2003-10-09 13:43             ` Ian Kent
2003-10-09 20:54               ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:55     ` Greg KH
2003-10-14 13:51     ` Ian Kent
2003-10-17  4:34       ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:54   ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 14:01 ` tabris
2003-10-07 17:53 ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 18:24   ` viro

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