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From: Witukind <witukind@nsbm.kicks-ass.org>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
Subject: Re: DevFS vs. udev
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:33:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031224123326.2e8989ff.witukind@nsbm.kicks-ass.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031224034121.GH4176@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 03:41:21 +0000
viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 06:38:20PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
>  
> > And yes, there are architectural/cleanliness issues with devfs.  In
> > 2.5 Adam Richter totally reinventing devfs's internals, basing it
> > around the ramfs infrastructure.  If we elect to retain devfs in 2.8
> > then that effort should be resurrected.
> 
> Switching internals to ramfs won't be enough, though.  There are
> problems with devfs API that can't be solved by work on internals -
> lifetime rules for devfs nodes make no sense.  Take a look at the
> insertion/removal primitives and think of the lifetime rules they
> create for directories and user-created nodes.  _That_ is independent
> from the way you implement the internals (and sanitized version of the
> interface won't fit into use of ramfs, BTW).

What's the difference that prevents Linux from having a "good" devfs since
FreeBSD is happy with this feature? 

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-24 11:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-23 11:51 DevFS vs. udev Bradley W. Allen
2003-12-23 12:06 ` Duncan Sands
2003-12-23 12:12 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-23 12:37   ` Marcelo Bezerra
2003-12-23 13:02     ` Ed Tomlinson
2003-12-25 12:11     ` Kai Henningsen
2003-12-23 14:30 ` Paul Dickson
2003-12-23 23:23   ` Bradley W. Allen
2003-12-23 23:46     ` Brett
2003-12-24  4:01     ` alex.g.goddard.1
2003-12-23 16:19 ` Ian Kent
2003-12-23 17:34   ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-23 22:02     ` Greg KH
2003-12-23 22:13       ` Tomasz Torcz
2003-12-24  0:45       ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-24  1:07         ` Greg KH
2003-12-24  1:22           ` memory mapping help - oracle stack dumps Paul
2003-12-27 21:13             ` Francois Romieu
2003-12-24  1:28           ` DevFS vs. udev Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-23 21:59 ` Greg KH
2003-12-24  1:52   ` Ian Kent
2003-12-24  2:03     ` Rob Love
2003-12-24  2:21       ` Ian Kent
2003-12-24  2:22         ` Rob Love
2003-12-24  2:32           ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-12-24  2:39             ` Rob Love
2003-12-24  2:38     ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-24  3:41       ` viro
2003-12-24 11:33         ` Witukind [this message]
2003-12-24  4:13 ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-24  4:38   ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-12-24 11:15     ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-24 13:44       ` Ian Soboroff
2003-12-24 14:17         ` Xavier Bestel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-07 12:38 devfs " Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 13:41 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-10-07 14:07   ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 14:23     ` Robert L. Harris
2003-10-07 14:29       ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 16:06       ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-10-07 16:11         ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 16:14         ` Robert L. Harris
2003-10-07 16:54         ` Hugo Mills
2003-10-07 17:19           ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 17:47             ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:49           ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:58             ` Hugo Mills
2003-10-07 18:10               ` Greg KH
2003-10-09 13:43             ` Ian Kent
2003-10-09 20:54               ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:55     ` Greg KH
2003-10-14 13:51     ` Ian Kent
2003-10-17  4:34       ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:54   ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 14:01 ` tabris
2003-10-07 17:53 ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 18:24   ` viro

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