From: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
To: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Free Linux Driver Development!
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:39:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070130223908.GA13185@tuxdriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adaireop383.fsf@cisco.com>
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 02:19:24PM -0800, Roland Dreier wrote:
> > You mean the bcm43xx wireless driver that's been upstream for months?
>
> Sorry, yes. For some reason I thought it was blocked on the dscape
> merge but obviously I was wrong. So a reverse-engineered driver got
> upstream WAY FASTER than a driver where the vendor published specs and
> GPLed source.
>
> Why did that happen? I would argue that it was because way more
> people cared about the broadcom driver (since the chip was in apple
> laptops and the wrt54g among other things). That developer and user
> interest is more important than the info provided by the vendor.
That may be partially true. But the main reason is that the rt2x00
team chose to depend upon the heretofore unmergeable devicescape stack.
In contrast, the bcm43xx driver had a port for the ieee80211+softmac
stack that was ready for merge much earlier. This is more a result
of confusion in one area of kernel development than an indictment of
Linux drivers in general.
FWIW, we are closing-in on a merge for the devicescape stack.
(No, really!) So, hopefully wireless will soon cease to be such a
fertile ground for bad examples...
Thanks,
John
--
John W. Linville
linville@tuxdriver.com
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Thread overview: 182+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-30 1:29 Free Linux Driver Development! Greg KH
2007-01-30 2:19 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-30 2:23 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 7:33 ` Bauke Jan Douma
2007-01-30 19:15 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 20:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-30 10:52 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-30 19:14 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 19:31 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-30 19:46 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 20:23 ` Diego Calleja
2007-01-30 20:39 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 21:13 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-01-31 21:56 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-01-31 22:04 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-01-30 13:45 ` Florian Weimer
2007-01-30 19:12 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 19:40 ` Florian Weimer
2007-01-30 19:47 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 17:30 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-30 19:11 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 22:21 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-30 19:33 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-01-30 19:55 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 17:45 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 17:55 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-30 18:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 18:11 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2007-01-30 19:02 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 19:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 19:10 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 19:29 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 19:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 21:38 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 21:47 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 22:00 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 22:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:19 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 22:39 ` John W. Linville [this message]
2007-01-30 22:23 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-01 13:59 ` Erik Mouw
2007-02-01 14:45 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-01 22:39 ` Erik Mouw
2007-02-01 15:46 ` Michael Buesch
2007-02-01 16:42 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-01 17:48 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-01-30 22:14 ` Dave Airlie
2007-01-30 22:24 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-30 22:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 13:34 ` David Hollis
2007-01-31 17:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 18:37 ` Bob Copeland
2007-02-01 5:52 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 20:54 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-01-31 17:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 17:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 17:58 ` alan
2007-01-31 18:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 19:17 ` alan
2007-01-30 22:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:15 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 23:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:19 ` Matthieu CASTET
2007-01-30 22:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 4:02 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2007-01-31 12:49 ` Alan
2007-01-31 18:37 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2007-01-30 23:03 ` Alan
2007-01-31 17:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-01-31 17:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 17:09 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-02-07 14:03 ` Tejun Heo
2007-02-07 18:40 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 17:28 ` Alan
2007-01-30 19:54 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 21:46 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 22:27 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-01-30 22:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:50 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 23:05 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 23:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 23:29 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 23:45 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-31 0:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 0:46 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 1:07 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-31 1:30 ` Greg KH
2007-02-07 10:30 ` Laurent Pinchart
2007-01-30 22:43 ` Alan
2007-01-30 19:52 ` Diego Calleja
2007-01-30 20:11 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 1:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-31 1:19 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 2:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-31 1:24 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 2:11 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-01-31 2:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-02-05 9:49 ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-02-06 13:37 ` Sunil Naidu
2007-02-06 14:57 ` Dave Jones
2007-02-06 16:30 ` Gene Heskett
2007-02-06 16:36 ` Gene Heskett
2007-02-06 21:14 ` Akemi Yagi
2007-02-06 22:15 ` floppy (Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, OT) Oleg Verych
2007-02-07 13:33 ` Free Linux Driver Development! Sunil Naidu
2007-02-07 13:50 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-08 0:43 ` David Lang
2007-02-06 15:12 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-06 16:11 ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-01-31 10:08 ` Rewriting floppy.c was " Andi Kleen
2007-01-31 9:20 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-01-31 9:32 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 9:34 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-01-31 16:18 ` Martin Seidl
2007-01-31 17:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-31 18:24 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 18:58 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-01-31 19:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 21:46 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-02-01 13:12 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-02-01 13:22 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-02-01 17:13 ` Al Viro
2007-01-31 17:41 ` Sergei Organov
2007-02-01 5:46 ` Greg KH
2007-02-01 14:22 ` Sergei Organov
2007-02-01 14:41 ` Alan
2007-01-30 19:08 ` Dmitri Vorobiev
2007-01-30 19:49 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 20:15 ` Andrew Lyon
2007-01-30 20:30 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 13:29 ` Christer Weinigel
2007-02-04 18:19 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 21:33 ` Christer Weinigel
2007-01-31 2:27 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-01-31 6:26 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 6:48 ` Kumar Gala
2007-01-31 20:01 ` Michael K. Edwards
[not found] ` <355711.50750.qm@web36602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
2007-02-04 18:20 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 19:08 ` Miguel Ojeda
2007-02-05 8:13 ` Greg KH
2007-02-05 15:24 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-02-06 6:42 ` Greg KH
2007-02-06 13:35 ` Sunil Naidu
2007-02-06 17:01 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 18:59 ` Pierre Ossman
2007-02-06 6:44 ` Greg KH
2007-02-06 8:29 ` Manu Abraham
2007-02-06 18:21 ` Greg KH
2007-02-07 7:12 ` Miguel Ojeda
2007-02-07 18:42 ` Greg KH
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2007-01-30 23:35 ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-31 13:06 Nicolas Mailhot
2007-01-31 19:29 ` Francois Romieu
2007-01-31 19:54 ` Auke Kok
2007-01-31 21:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 21:48 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 20:09 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-01-31 20:12 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 21:15 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-02-01 5:50 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 22:06 ` Dave Jones
2007-01-31 22:08 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-01-31 23:00 ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-31 23:04 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-02-01 1:08 ` Mark Lord
2007-02-01 1:39 ` Lee Revell
2007-02-01 10:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 23:44 ` Greg KH
2007-02-01 0:07 ` Trent Waddington
2007-02-01 1:58 ` Greg KH
2007-02-01 8:40 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-02-01 9:03 ` Trent Waddington
2007-02-01 9:22 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-02-01 9:34 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 23:59 ` Lee Revell
2007-02-01 11:43 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-02-14 12:00 ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-02 4:54 Christoph Bartelmus
2007-02-04 6:26 Larry Finger
2007-02-04 10:36 ` Michael Buesch
2007-02-04 21:37 devzero
2007-02-04 23:04 ` Oleg Verych
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