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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Arve Hj?nnev?g <arve@android.com>
Cc: swetland@google.com, Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/11] Android PM extensions
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:08:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090130090859.GA7967@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6200be20901291716g5b6f4542r54c2ba8672961c91@mail.gmail.com>

> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> > AFAICT, this is something very different. It is attempt to do
> > autosuspend right. Imagine burning cd... right now you can suspend,
> > and it will just stop the burn.
> >
> > Wakelocks code allows you to tell the machine 'feel free to suspend
> > when you have nothing to do'... so the machine will burn the cd and
> > then suspend.
> >
> 
> Yes, wakelocks solves this problem, but our auto-suspend code is all
> in user-space so the kernel would not have to be involved in that
> particular example.
> 
> I added an example to the document that may help illustrate why we
> added wakelock support in the kernel:
> 
> ---
> Documentation/power/wakelocks.txt
> Wakelocks
> =========
> 
> A wakelock prevents the system from entering suspend or other low-power
> states when active. If the type is set to WAKE_LOCK_SUSPEND, the wakelock
> prevents a full system suspend. If the type is WAKE_LOCK_IDLE, low-power
> states that cause large interrupt latencies or that disable a set of
> interrupts will not be entered from idle until the wakelocks are released.
> 
> Wakelocks can be used to allow user-space to decide which keys should wake
> the system. The sequence of events can look like this:
> - The Keypad driver gets an interrupt. It then locks the keypad-scan wakelock
>   and starts scanning the keypad.
> - The keypad-scan code detects a key change and reports it to the input-event
>   driver.
> - The input-event driver sees the key change, enqueues an event, and locks
>   the input-event-queue wakelock.
> - The keypad-scan code detects that no keys are held and unlocks the
>   keypad-scan wakelock.
> - The user-space input-event thread returns from select/poll, locks the
>   process-input-events wakelock and then calls read in the input-event device.
> - The input-event driver dequeues the key-event and, since the queue is now
>   empty, it unlocks the input-event-queue wakelock.
> - The user-space input-event thread returns from read. It determines that the
>   key should not wake up the system, releases the process-input-events
>   wakelock and calls select or poll.

I don't get it. So you are running userspace while system is
suspended? 
								Pavel

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-30  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-14  1:27 [RFC][PATCH 00/11] Android PM extensions Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27 ` [PATCH 01/11] PM: Add wake lock api Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27   ` [PATCH 02/11] PM: Add early suspend api Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27     ` [PATCH 03/11] PM: Implement wakelock api Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27       ` [PATCH 04/11] PM: Implement early suspend api Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27         ` [PATCH 05/11] PM: Enable early suspend through /sys/power/state Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27           ` [PATCH 06/11] PM: Add user-space wake lock api Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27             ` [PATCH 07/11] PM: wakelock: Abort task freezing if a wake lock is held Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27               ` [PATCH 08/11] PM: earlysuspend: Add console switch when user requested sleep state changes Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27                 ` [PATCH 09/11] PM: earlysuspend: Removing dependence on console Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27                   ` [PATCH 10/11] Input: Hold wake lock while event queue is not empty Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27                     ` [PATCH 11/11] ledtrig-sleep: Add led trigger for sleep debugging Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-30 12:43             ` [PATCH 06/11] PM: Add user-space wake lock api Uli Luckas
2009-01-31  0:17               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-31  7:24               ` Brian Swetland
2009-01-28 19:34           ` [PATCH 05/11] PM: Enable early suspend through /sys/power/state Pavel Machek
2009-01-31  3:13             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-31 15:49               ` Alan Stern
2009-02-02 11:44                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 11:45               ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 22:36                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  9:48         ` [PATCH 04/11] PM: Implement early suspend api Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-14 23:57           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  9:30       ` [PATCH 03/11] PM: Implement wakelock api Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-14 23:28         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  9:17     ` [PATCH 02/11] PM: Add early suspend api Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-14 23:18       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  9:09   ` [PATCH 01/11] PM: Add wake lock api Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-14 23:07     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  9:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/11] Android PM extensions Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-15  0:10   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-15  4:42   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-15 15:08     ` Alan Stern
2009-01-15 20:34       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-29 13:04       ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30  1:16         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-30  3:27           ` Alan Stern
2009-01-30  4:40             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-30  6:04               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-02 11:49                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30  9:11               ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30 12:34                 ` Uli Luckas
2009-02-02 11:46                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30 15:13               ` Alan Stern
2009-01-31  0:02                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-31 16:19                   ` Alan Stern
2009-01-31 23:28                     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-02 10:42                     ` Uli Luckas
2009-02-02 15:05                       ` Alan Stern
2009-02-02 16:15                         ` Uli Luckas
2009-02-02 16:35                           ` Alan Stern
2009-02-03 20:15                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-31  7:47                 ` Brian Swetland
2009-01-31 15:41                   ` Alan Stern
2009-01-31 18:39                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-31 18:54                       ` Igor Stoppa
2009-02-01  1:04                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-02 11:55                       ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-31 22:41                     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-31 23:20                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-31 23:32                         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-01  0:18                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-01  1:17                             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-01  1:32                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-01  2:14                                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-01 12:30                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-01 14:03                                     ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-01 17:43                                     ` Alan Stern
2009-02-01 19:27                                       ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-02 11:00                                       ` Uli Luckas
2009-02-02 15:09                                         ` Alan Stern
2009-02-02 16:24                                           ` Uli Luckas
2009-02-02 21:47                                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-02-02 23:21                                             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-02 23:51                                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-02-03  0:08                                                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-04 13:25                                               ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 23:10                                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-03  3:27                                             ` Alan Stern
2009-02-03  4:18                                               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-03 20:30                                                 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-04 13:29                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 11:56                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 12:38                           ` Uli Luckas
2009-01-30  9:08           ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-01-30  9:25             ` Brian Swetland
2009-01-28 19:31 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-05  2:50 Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-06 23:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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