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From: Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/11] Android PM extensions
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:25:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090130092503.GA8753@bulgaria.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090130090859.GA7967@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>

[Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>]
> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> > > AFAICT, this is something very different. It is attempt to do
> > > autosuspend right. Imagine burning cd... right now you can suspend,
> > > and it will just stop the burn.
> > >
> > > Wakelocks code allows you to tell the machine 'feel free to suspend
> > > when you have nothing to do'... so the machine will burn the cd and
> > > then suspend.
...
> 
> I don't get it. So you are running userspace while system is
> suspended? 

The general idea is that we aggressively try to be suspended as much as
possible.  Typically this means that when the display is turned off
(after the user inactivity timeout, managed from a userspace process),
suspend is requested.

If work is being done that requires the system to keep running, a
wakelock is held, preventing suspend from happening.

If suspend happens, but we resume due to a wakeup interrupt (for
example, user pressing a key), a wakelock is typically acquired during
the interrupt handler (which is called while we're resuming) and
arranged to be held until the event is delivered to userspace.  The
userspace code which receives events acquires a wakelock before draining
the queue (after select returns, before reading, etc) so that it keeps
the system awake until the event is processed.

In many cases the system pretty rapidly drops wakelocks and returns to
suspend state.

Brian

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-30  9:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-14  1:27 [RFC][PATCH 00/11] Android PM extensions Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27 ` [PATCH 01/11] PM: Add wake lock api Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27   ` [PATCH 02/11] PM: Add early suspend api Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27     ` [PATCH 03/11] PM: Implement wakelock api Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27       ` [PATCH 04/11] PM: Implement early suspend api Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27         ` [PATCH 05/11] PM: Enable early suspend through /sys/power/state Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27           ` [PATCH 06/11] PM: Add user-space wake lock api Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27             ` [PATCH 07/11] PM: wakelock: Abort task freezing if a wake lock is held Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27               ` [PATCH 08/11] PM: earlysuspend: Add console switch when user requested sleep state changes Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27                 ` [PATCH 09/11] PM: earlysuspend: Removing dependence on console Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27                   ` [PATCH 10/11] Input: Hold wake lock while event queue is not empty Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  1:27                     ` [PATCH 11/11] ledtrig-sleep: Add led trigger for sleep debugging Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-30 12:43             ` [PATCH 06/11] PM: Add user-space wake lock api Uli Luckas
2009-01-31  0:17               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-31  7:24               ` Brian Swetland
2009-01-28 19:34           ` [PATCH 05/11] PM: Enable early suspend through /sys/power/state Pavel Machek
2009-01-31  3:13             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-31 15:49               ` Alan Stern
2009-02-02 11:44                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 11:45               ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 22:36                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  9:48         ` [PATCH 04/11] PM: Implement early suspend api Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-14 23:57           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  9:30       ` [PATCH 03/11] PM: Implement wakelock api Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-14 23:28         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  9:17     ` [PATCH 02/11] PM: Add early suspend api Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-14 23:18       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  9:09   ` [PATCH 01/11] PM: Add wake lock api Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-14 23:07     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-14  9:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/11] Android PM extensions Nigel Cunningham
2009-01-15  0:10   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-15  4:42   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-15 15:08     ` Alan Stern
2009-01-15 20:34       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-29 13:04       ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30  1:16         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-30  3:27           ` Alan Stern
2009-01-30  4:40             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-30  6:04               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-02 11:49                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30  9:11               ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30 12:34                 ` Uli Luckas
2009-02-02 11:46                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30 15:13               ` Alan Stern
2009-01-31  0:02                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-31 16:19                   ` Alan Stern
2009-01-31 23:28                     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-02 10:42                     ` Uli Luckas
2009-02-02 15:05                       ` Alan Stern
2009-02-02 16:15                         ` Uli Luckas
2009-02-02 16:35                           ` Alan Stern
2009-02-03 20:15                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-31  7:47                 ` Brian Swetland
2009-01-31 15:41                   ` Alan Stern
2009-01-31 18:39                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-31 18:54                       ` Igor Stoppa
2009-02-01  1:04                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-02 11:55                       ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-31 22:41                     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-31 23:20                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-31 23:32                         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-01  0:18                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-01  1:17                             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-01  1:32                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-01  2:14                                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-01 12:30                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-01 14:03                                     ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-01 17:43                                     ` Alan Stern
2009-02-01 19:27                                       ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-02 11:00                                       ` Uli Luckas
2009-02-02 15:09                                         ` Alan Stern
2009-02-02 16:24                                           ` Uli Luckas
2009-02-02 21:47                                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-02-02 23:21                                             ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-02 23:51                                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-02-03  0:08                                                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-04 13:25                                               ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 23:10                                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-03  3:27                                             ` Alan Stern
2009-02-03  4:18                                               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-03 20:30                                                 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-04 13:29                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 11:56                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 12:38                           ` Uli Luckas
2009-01-30  9:08           ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-30  9:25             ` Brian Swetland [this message]
2009-01-28 19:31 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-05  2:50 Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-06 23:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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