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From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: ARM Machine SoC I/O setup and PAD initialization code
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:47:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100721084726.GC6009@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201007211029.29529.david.jander@protonic.nl>

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:29:29AM +0200, David Jander wrote:
> General machine initialization like I/O-multiplexing and I/O-pad setup seems 
> to be done twice most of the time: Once in the bootloader (i.e. u-boot), and 
> once in the machine support file in the linux kernel. This seems awfully 
> redundant and error-prone to me. Why is it like this?

I answer your question only once - rather than the number of times you've
asked it in this email.

We do IO mux setup in the kernel for two reasons:

1. we don't trust boot loaders to do the right thing, especially when we
   have a plethora of boot loaders - or even no boot loader - to deal with.

2. on some platforms and SoCs, it's necessary to change the IO mux setup
   at runtime.

> What about fixing bootloaders then?

Forget fixing boot loaders; that's a total and utter lost cause.  Boot
loaders generally don't seem to even be capable of passing a block of
information correctly to the kernel, or even getting one simple value
in a register correct.

Boot loaders really can't be trusted, and the less we rely upon them,
the better.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-21  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-21  8:29 ARM Machine SoC I/O setup and PAD initialization code David Jander
2010-07-21  8:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2010-07-22  2:32   ` Simon Horman
2010-07-22  7:20     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22  7:29       ` Simon Horman
2010-07-22  8:38         ` Magnus Damm
2010-07-22  8:49           ` Eric Miao
2010-07-22  9:01             ` Magnus Damm
2010-07-22  9:02             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22  8:46         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22  9:14           ` Simon Horman
2010-07-24 21:36         ` Grant Likely
2010-07-22  8:16       ` Magnus Damm
2010-07-22 12:10         ` David Jander
2010-07-22 12:35           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22 12:56           ` Mark Brown
2010-07-22 13:31             ` David Jander
2010-07-22 13:54               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-23 10:35                 ` David Jander
2010-07-23 13:02                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22 14:20               ` Mark Brown
2010-07-23 10:18                 ` David Jander
2010-07-23 12:57                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-23 14:17                   ` Mark Brown
2010-07-23 18:38                     ` david at protonic.nl
2010-07-23 19:59                       ` Jason McMullan
2010-07-23 21:03                       ` Robert Schwebel
2010-07-26  1:37                         ` Magnus Damm
2010-07-26  6:56                           ` Robert Schwebel
2010-07-24 18:50                       ` Mark Brown
2010-07-22 15:00               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-23 10:31                 ` David Jander
2010-07-22 13:41           ` Rob Herring
2010-07-22 21:20 ` Linus Walleij

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