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From: horms@verge.net.au (Simon Horman)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: ARM Machine SoC I/O setup and PAD initialization code
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:14:12 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100722091409.GA15757@verge.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100722084649.GK6802@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 09:46:49AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 04:29:48PM +0900, Simon Horman wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 08:20:34AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:32:53AM +0900, Simon Horman wrote:
> > > > Would it be feasible to  use Linux + kexec as the boot loader as
> > > > a long term solution to fixing boot loaders by eliminating them?
> > > 
> > > So what you're proposing is that a broken boot loader should boot a
> > > version of Linux to fix the pin MUX, which then kexecs a kernel which
> > > doesn't have that code?
> > > 
> > > What's the point of that - when the first kernel will be able to run
> > > the system?
> > 
> > Ok, point taken, its impossible to remove the boot loaders.

For the record, what I was proposing was removing the broken boot loader
and replacing it with something that isn't broken. And I was wondering
if that is feasible or not. But as you point out (elsewhere) that
may not be relevant to the original question.

> No, my point was that if you're going to put pin mux code into the
> kernel, there's no point building the pin mux code out of the kernel
> which you're going to use to run your device.
> 
> So, what we tend to do as a general rule on ARM is to put the pin mux
> code into the kernel so that we're less reliant on any boot loader to
> get it right.  And as I've already said, we have some cases where we
> need to change the pin muxing at runtime, and at least one case where
> it needs to be changed by the device driver operating on the pins.

Ok, so the boot-loader is irrelevant to the pin mux code in the kernel?

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-22  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-21  8:29 ARM Machine SoC I/O setup and PAD initialization code David Jander
2010-07-21  8:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22  2:32   ` Simon Horman
2010-07-22  7:20     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22  7:29       ` Simon Horman
2010-07-22  8:38         ` Magnus Damm
2010-07-22  8:49           ` Eric Miao
2010-07-22  9:01             ` Magnus Damm
2010-07-22  9:02             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22  8:46         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22  9:14           ` Simon Horman [this message]
2010-07-24 21:36         ` Grant Likely
2010-07-22  8:16       ` Magnus Damm
2010-07-22 12:10         ` David Jander
2010-07-22 12:35           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22 12:56           ` Mark Brown
2010-07-22 13:31             ` David Jander
2010-07-22 13:54               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-23 10:35                 ` David Jander
2010-07-23 13:02                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22 14:20               ` Mark Brown
2010-07-23 10:18                 ` David Jander
2010-07-23 12:57                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-23 14:17                   ` Mark Brown
2010-07-23 18:38                     ` david at protonic.nl
2010-07-23 19:59                       ` Jason McMullan
2010-07-23 21:03                       ` Robert Schwebel
2010-07-26  1:37                         ` Magnus Damm
2010-07-26  6:56                           ` Robert Schwebel
2010-07-24 18:50                       ` Mark Brown
2010-07-22 15:00               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-23 10:31                 ` David Jander
2010-07-22 13:41           ` Rob Herring
2010-07-22 21:20 ` Linus Walleij

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