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From: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To: Colin Cross <ccross@android.com>
Cc: linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	konkers@android.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	olof@lixom.net, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 20/28] ARM: tegra: cpufreq: Disable cpufreq during suspend
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:26:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110124202610.GJ29925@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikOEm=watbA1G-SFK3PZrntDc+Wun84nGio=YKv@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:52:12AM -0800, Colin Cross wrote:

> Even _noirq isn't late enough, if cpufreq keeps trying to change the
> frequency (and thus voltage) until sysdev suspend.

If it were just cpufreq in isolation I'm not sure it'd be a big deal -
nothing will go hideously wrong if it's ticking away by itself providing
it's just governors working away providing the error handling is OK.
However...

> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Mark Brown

> > So you actively need to push the processor into low power mode during
> > suspend?  I'm still not 100% clear what's triggering the issues you're

> It's more of a voltage scaling issue than a cpufreq issue directly.
> Tegra requires the voltage be set to nominal during resume, and the
> only time it can be set for resume is before I2C suspends.  I handle
> the problem with a suspend notifier in the latest version of the clock
> voltage scaling patches, but I kept this patch to avoid cpufreq trying
> to go to frequencies that are not supported by the suspend voltage.

...it sounds like you do actually have something of the above issue - 
but I think it's a generic-ish problem.  See below.

> > Typically this stuff isn't a problem for regulators themselves since if
> > they're active by the time I2C is off they normally get suspended by
> > hardware handshakes from the CPU as that enters low power mode - right
> > now we have no regulators at all in mainline that do anything in
> > software on suspend.  We can get a long way by just ignoring what
> > happens to regulators over suspend (there is some work to do here but
> > it's orthogonal to this sort of issue).

> The regulator driver itself has nothing to do, and when the CPU enters
> its lowest power mode it signals the regulator to turn off, but
> something needs to tell the regulator to go to the correct voltage.

Normally that's handled by the same transition logic - the core PMIC
will usually sequence a bunch of voltage and power status changes when
entering its own low power mode and have a similar transition on resume
which will ensure that the regulators power back up with a sane setup
regardless of the state they were in beforehand.

It sounds like for your systems what's happening is that the resume is
restoring the previously configured voltages for the core rails rather
than going to a known good state.  Is my understanding correct here?
While your fix is good and I don't see any reason not to do it this does
sound like something we should have a solution for in common code as I'd
not be surprised if there were other hardware out there which did a
similar thing.

Assuming I'm not completely off base with the above it'd be good if you
could clarify this in the commit message - there's enough dragons with
this stuff and it's common to refer to other implementations so it'd be
nice if we had a clear record of the issue in the log.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com (Mark Brown)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 20/28] ARM: tegra: cpufreq: Disable cpufreq during suspend
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:26:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110124202610.GJ29925@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikOEm=watbA1G-SFK3PZrntDc+Wun84nGio=YKv@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:52:12AM -0800, Colin Cross wrote:

> Even _noirq isn't late enough, if cpufreq keeps trying to change the
> frequency (and thus voltage) until sysdev suspend.

If it were just cpufreq in isolation I'm not sure it'd be a big deal -
nothing will go hideously wrong if it's ticking away by itself providing
it's just governors working away providing the error handling is OK.
However...

> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Mark Brown

> > So you actively need to push the processor into low power mode during
> > suspend? ?I'm still not 100% clear what's triggering the issues you're

> It's more of a voltage scaling issue than a cpufreq issue directly.
> Tegra requires the voltage be set to nominal during resume, and the
> only time it can be set for resume is before I2C suspends.  I handle
> the problem with a suspend notifier in the latest version of the clock
> voltage scaling patches, but I kept this patch to avoid cpufreq trying
> to go to frequencies that are not supported by the suspend voltage.

...it sounds like you do actually have something of the above issue - 
but I think it's a generic-ish problem.  See below.

> > Typically this stuff isn't a problem for regulators themselves since if
> > they're active by the time I2C is off they normally get suspended by
> > hardware handshakes from the CPU as that enters low power mode - right
> > now we have no regulators at all in mainline that do anything in
> > software on suspend. ?We can get a long way by just ignoring what
> > happens to regulators over suspend (there is some work to do here but
> > it's orthogonal to this sort of issue).

> The regulator driver itself has nothing to do, and when the CPU enters
> its lowest power mode it signals the regulator to turn off, but
> something needs to tell the regulator to go to the correct voltage.

Normally that's handled by the same transition logic - the core PMIC
will usually sequence a bunch of voltage and power status changes when
entering its own low power mode and have a similar transition on resume
which will ensure that the regulators power back up with a sane setup
regardless of the state they were in beforehand.

It sounds like for your systems what's happening is that the resume is
restoring the previously configured voltages for the core rails rather
than going to a known good state.  Is my understanding correct here?
While your fix is good and I don't see any reason not to do it this does
sound like something we should have a solution for in common code as I'd
not be surprised if there were other hardware out there which did a
similar thing.

Assuming I'm not completely off base with the above it'd be good if you
could clarify this in the commit message - there's enough dragons with
this stuff and it's common to refer to other implementations so it'd be
nice if we had a clear record of the issue in the log.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-24 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-24  2:01 [PATCH v2 00/28] Updates for Tegra support in 2.6.39 Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/28] ARM: tegra: irq: Rename gic pointers to avoid conflicts Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-26  7:10   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-26  7:10     ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/28] ARM: gic: Add functions to save and restore gic state Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-02-01 13:03   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-01 13:03     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/28] ARM: gic: Export irq chip functions Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  6:39   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-01-24  6:39     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/28] ARM: mm: cache-l2x0: Add support for re-enabling l2x0 Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-25 15:14   ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-25 15:14     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-25 15:41     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 15:41       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 18:14       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-25 18:14         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-01-25 18:32         ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-01-25 18:32           ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-01-25 18:39           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]           ` <-8932138696981683633@unknownmsgid>
2011-02-04 23:32             ` Colin Cross
2011-02-04 23:32               ` Colin Cross
2011-02-04 23:32               ` Colin Cross
2011-02-04 23:43               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-04 23:43                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                 ` <20110204234331.GF8732-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-05  1:44                   ` Colin Cross
2011-02-05  1:44                     ` Colin Cross
2011-02-05  1:44                     ` Colin Cross
     [not found]                     ` <AANLkTi=fHnivHXHnYrQvdP6JWbEA3t1X3DuBxj5gN3H0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-05  7:51                       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-05  7:51                         ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-05  7:51                         ` Santosh Shilimkar
     [not found]                         ` <1bebe4b5c8590059b70a146d5486fa6a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-05  9:47                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-05  9:47                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-05  9:47                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-02-05 10:41                             ` [PATCH v2 04/28] ARM: mm: cache-l2x0: Add support forre-enabling l2x0 Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-05 10:41                               ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-05 16:36                               ` Colin Cross
2011-02-05 16:36                                 ` Colin Cross
     [not found]                                 ` <AANLkTik_r4k_5o+F47vRbGPcWLwfgHgWqhym49XfhBZ9-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-07  6:13                                   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-07  6:13                                     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-02-07  6:13                                     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/28] ARM: tegra: Centralize macros to define debug uart base Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/28] ARM: tegra: Add api to control internal powergating Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/28] ARM: tegra: irqs: Update irq list Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/28] ARM: tegra: Add prototypes for subsystem suspend functions Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/28] ARM: tegra: clock: Suspend fixes, and add new clocks Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/28] ARM: tegra: pinmux: Add missing drive pingroups and fix suspend Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/28] ARM: tegra: timer: Add idle and suspend support to timers Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 12/28] ARM: tegra: irq: Add support for suspend wake sources Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 13/28] ARM: tegra: Add suspend and hotplug support Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  7:31   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  7:31     ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  9:07   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24  9:07     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24  9:26     ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  9:26       ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24 10:15       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24 10:15         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 14/28] ARM: tegra: irq: Add set_wake and set_type support for suspend Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 15/28] ARM: tegra: irq: Add debugfs file to show wake irqs Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-27 19:45   ` Stephen Boyd
2011-01-27 19:45     ` Stephen Boyd
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 16/28] ARM: tegra: irq: Implement retrigger Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 17/28] ARM: tegra: gpio: Add support for waking from suspend Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 18/28] ARM: tegra: add CPU_IDLE driver Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-27 20:38   ` Stephen Boyd
2011-01-27 20:38     ` Stephen Boyd
2011-01-27 21:51     ` Colin Cross
2011-01-27 21:51       ` Colin Cross
2011-01-27 22:07       ` Colin Cross
2011-01-27 22:07         ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 19/28] ARM: tegra: iomap: Add missing devices, fix use of SZ_8, SZ_64 Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 20/28] ARM: tegra: cpufreq: Disable cpufreq during suspend Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24 14:41   ` Mark Brown
2011-01-24 14:41     ` Mark Brown
2011-01-24 18:50     ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24 18:50       ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24 19:35       ` Mark Brown
2011-01-24 19:35         ` Mark Brown
2011-01-24 19:52         ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24 19:52           ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24 20:26           ` Mark Brown [this message]
2011-01-24 20:26             ` Mark Brown
2011-01-24 20:52             ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24 20:52               ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24 21:08               ` Mark Brown
2011-01-24 21:08                 ` Mark Brown
2011-01-24 21:24                 ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24 21:24                   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-25  4:26         ` Kyungmin Park
2011-01-25  4:26           ` Kyungmin Park
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 21/28] ARM: tegra: Allow overriding arch_reset Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 22/28] ARM: tegra: dma: Fix critical data corruption bugs Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 23/28] ARM: tegra: add tegra_defconfig Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 24/28] ARM: tegra: Use writel_relaxed in tegra_init_cache Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 25/28] ARM: tegra: suspend: Save protected aperture across LP0 Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 26/28] ARM: tegra: suspend: protect suspend functions with CONFIG_PM Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 27/28] ARM: tegra: enable emc clock updates after lp0 Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01 ` [PATCH v2 28/28] ARM: tegra: clock: Add forward reference to struct clk Colin Cross
2011-01-24  2:01   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-24 10:26   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24 10:26     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25  1:23     ` Colin Cross
2011-01-25  1:23       ` Colin Cross
2011-01-26  3:19   ` Grant Likely
2011-01-26  3:19     ` Grant Likely
2011-01-26  3:21     ` Colin Cross
2011-01-26  3:21       ` Colin Cross
2011-01-26  4:16       ` Grant Likely
2011-01-26  4:16         ` Grant Likely
2011-01-25 10:56 [PATCH v2 20/28] ARM: tegra: cpufreq: Disable cpufreq during suspend MyungJoo Ham
2011-01-25 12:40 ` Mark Brown
2011-01-25 12:40   ` Mark Brown

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