From: Colin Cross <ccross@android.com> To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> Cc: linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>, konkers@android.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, olof@lixom.net, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 20/28] ARM: tegra: cpufreq: Disable cpufreq during suspend Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:52:51 -0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <AANLkTinY5mJtC2fiV1iBnPbgwH9v3AmQQ7RR3pYJVACL@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20110124202610.GJ29925@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:52:12AM -0800, Colin Cross wrote: > >> Even _noirq isn't late enough, if cpufreq keeps trying to change the >> frequency (and thus voltage) until sysdev suspend. > > If it were just cpufreq in isolation I'm not sure it'd be a big deal - > nothing will go hideously wrong if it's ticking away by itself providing > it's just governors working away providing the error handling is OK. > However... > >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Mark Brown > >> > So you actively need to push the processor into low power mode during >> > suspend? I'm still not 100% clear what's triggering the issues you're > >> It's more of a voltage scaling issue than a cpufreq issue directly. >> Tegra requires the voltage be set to nominal during resume, and the >> only time it can be set for resume is before I2C suspends. I handle >> the problem with a suspend notifier in the latest version of the clock >> voltage scaling patches, but I kept this patch to avoid cpufreq trying >> to go to frequencies that are not supported by the suspend voltage. > > ...it sounds like you do actually have something of the above issue - > but I think it's a generic-ish problem. See below. > >> > Typically this stuff isn't a problem for regulators themselves since if >> > they're active by the time I2C is off they normally get suspended by >> > hardware handshakes from the CPU as that enters low power mode - right >> > now we have no regulators at all in mainline that do anything in >> > software on suspend. We can get a long way by just ignoring what >> > happens to regulators over suspend (there is some work to do here but >> > it's orthogonal to this sort of issue). > >> The regulator driver itself has nothing to do, and when the CPU enters >> its lowest power mode it signals the regulator to turn off, but >> something needs to tell the regulator to go to the correct voltage. > > Normally that's handled by the same transition logic - the core PMIC > will usually sequence a bunch of voltage and power status changes when > entering its own low power mode and have a similar transition on resume > which will ensure that the regulators power back up with a sane setup > regardless of the state they were in beforehand. I believe Tegra supports this mode, where the Tegra PMC can master the I2C bus to control an external PMIC during resume, but I've never seen it used. > It sounds like for your systems what's happening is that the resume is > restoring the previously configured voltages for the core rails rather > than going to a known good state. Is my understanding correct here? > While your fix is good and I don't see any reason not to do it this does > sound like something we should have a solution for in common code as I'd > not be surprised if there were other hardware out there which did a > similar thing. Yes - the core can be connected to a dumb I2C regulator, which the core can turn on and off with a request line, but can't control the voltage without a regulator driver controlling the I2C bus. > Assuming I'm not completely off base with the above it'd be good if you > could clarify this in the commit message - there's enough dragons with > this stuff and it's common to refer to other implementations so it'd be > nice if we had a clear record of the issue in the log. Will do
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From: ccross@android.com (Colin Cross) To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: [PATCH v2 20/28] ARM: tegra: cpufreq: Disable cpufreq during suspend Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:52:51 -0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <AANLkTinY5mJtC2fiV1iBnPbgwH9v3AmQQ7RR3pYJVACL@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20110124202610.GJ29925@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:52:12AM -0800, Colin Cross wrote: > >> Even _noirq isn't late enough, if cpufreq keeps trying to change the >> frequency (and thus voltage) until sysdev suspend. > > If it were just cpufreq in isolation I'm not sure it'd be a big deal - > nothing will go hideously wrong if it's ticking away by itself providing > it's just governors working away providing the error handling is OK. > However... > >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Mark Brown > >> > So you actively need to push the processor into low power mode during >> > suspend? ?I'm still not 100% clear what's triggering the issues you're > >> It's more of a voltage scaling issue than a cpufreq issue directly. >> Tegra requires the voltage be set to nominal during resume, and the >> only time it can be set for resume is before I2C suspends. ?I handle >> the problem with a suspend notifier in the latest version of the clock >> voltage scaling patches, but I kept this patch to avoid cpufreq trying >> to go to frequencies that are not supported by the suspend voltage. > > ...it sounds like you do actually have something of the above issue - > but I think it's a generic-ish problem. ?See below. > >> > Typically this stuff isn't a problem for regulators themselves since if >> > they're active by the time I2C is off they normally get suspended by >> > hardware handshakes from the CPU as that enters low power mode - right >> > now we have no regulators at all in mainline that do anything in >> > software on suspend. ?We can get a long way by just ignoring what >> > happens to regulators over suspend (there is some work to do here but >> > it's orthogonal to this sort of issue). > >> The regulator driver itself has nothing to do, and when the CPU enters >> its lowest power mode it signals the regulator to turn off, but >> something needs to tell the regulator to go to the correct voltage. > > Normally that's handled by the same transition logic - the core PMIC > will usually sequence a bunch of voltage and power status changes when > entering its own low power mode and have a similar transition on resume > which will ensure that the regulators power back up with a sane setup > regardless of the state they were in beforehand. I believe Tegra supports this mode, where the Tegra PMC can master the I2C bus to control an external PMIC during resume, but I've never seen it used. > It sounds like for your systems what's happening is that the resume is > restoring the previously configured voltages for the core rails rather > than going to a known good state. ?Is my understanding correct here? > While your fix is good and I don't see any reason not to do it this does > sound like something we should have a solution for in common code as I'd > not be surprised if there were other hardware out there which did a > similar thing. Yes - the core can be connected to a dumb I2C regulator, which the core can turn on and off with a request line, but can't control the voltage without a regulator driver controlling the I2C bus. > Assuming I'm not completely off base with the above it'd be good if you > could clarify this in the commit message - there's enough dragons with > this stuff and it's common to refer to other implementations so it'd be > nice if we had a clear record of the issue in the log. Will do
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-24 20:52 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2011-01-24 2:01 [PATCH v2 00/28] Updates for Tegra support in 2.6.39 Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/28] ARM: tegra: irq: Rename gic pointers to avoid conflicts Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-26 7:10 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-26 7:10 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/28] ARM: gic: Add functions to save and restore gic state Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-02-01 13:03 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-02-01 13:03 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/28] ARM: gic: Export irq chip functions Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 6:39 ` Santosh Shilimkar 2011-01-24 6:39 ` Santosh Shilimkar 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/28] ARM: mm: cache-l2x0: Add support for re-enabling l2x0 Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-25 15:14 ` Catalin Marinas 2011-01-25 15:14 ` Catalin Marinas 2011-01-25 15:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-01-25 15:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-01-25 18:14 ` Catalin Marinas 2011-01-25 18:14 ` Catalin Marinas 2011-01-25 18:32 ` Santosh Shilimkar 2011-01-25 18:32 ` Santosh Shilimkar 2011-01-25 18:39 ` Will Deacon [not found] ` <-8932138696981683633@unknownmsgid> 2011-02-04 23:32 ` Colin Cross 2011-02-04 23:32 ` Colin Cross 2011-02-04 23:32 ` Colin Cross 2011-02-04 23:43 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-02-04 23:43 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [not found] ` <20110204234331.GF8732-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org> 2011-02-05 1:44 ` Colin Cross 2011-02-05 1:44 ` Colin Cross 2011-02-05 1:44 ` Colin Cross [not found] ` <AANLkTi=fHnivHXHnYrQvdP6JWbEA3t1X3DuBxj5gN3H0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 2011-02-05 7:51 ` Santosh Shilimkar 2011-02-05 7:51 ` Santosh Shilimkar 2011-02-05 7:51 ` Santosh Shilimkar [not found] ` <1bebe4b5c8590059b70a146d5486fa6a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 2011-02-05 9:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-02-05 9:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-02-05 9:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-02-05 10:41 ` [PATCH v2 04/28] ARM: mm: cache-l2x0: Add support forre-enabling l2x0 Santosh Shilimkar 2011-02-05 10:41 ` Santosh Shilimkar 2011-02-05 16:36 ` Colin Cross 2011-02-05 16:36 ` Colin Cross [not found] ` <AANLkTik_r4k_5o+F47vRbGPcWLwfgHgWqhym49XfhBZ9-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 2011-02-07 6:13 ` Santosh Shilimkar 2011-02-07 6:13 ` Santosh Shilimkar 2011-02-07 6:13 ` Santosh Shilimkar 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/28] ARM: tegra: Centralize macros to define debug uart base Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/28] ARM: tegra: Add api to control internal powergating Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/28] ARM: tegra: irqs: Update irq list Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/28] ARM: tegra: Add prototypes for subsystem suspend functions Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/28] ARM: tegra: clock: Suspend fixes, and add new clocks Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/28] ARM: tegra: pinmux: Add missing drive pingroups and fix suspend Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/28] ARM: tegra: timer: Add idle and suspend support to timers Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 12/28] ARM: tegra: irq: Add support for suspend wake sources Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 13/28] ARM: tegra: Add suspend and hotplug support Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 7:31 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 7:31 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 9:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-01-24 9:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-01-24 9:26 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 9:26 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 10:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-01-24 10:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 14/28] ARM: tegra: irq: Add set_wake and set_type support for suspend Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 15/28] ARM: tegra: irq: Add debugfs file to show wake irqs Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-27 19:45 ` Stephen Boyd 2011-01-27 19:45 ` Stephen Boyd 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 16/28] ARM: tegra: irq: Implement retrigger Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 17/28] ARM: tegra: gpio: Add support for waking from suspend Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 18/28] ARM: tegra: add CPU_IDLE driver Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-27 20:38 ` Stephen Boyd 2011-01-27 20:38 ` Stephen Boyd 2011-01-27 21:51 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-27 21:51 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-27 22:07 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-27 22:07 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 19/28] ARM: tegra: iomap: Add missing devices, fix use of SZ_8, SZ_64 Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 20/28] ARM: tegra: cpufreq: Disable cpufreq during suspend Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 14:41 ` Mark Brown 2011-01-24 14:41 ` Mark Brown 2011-01-24 18:50 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 18:50 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 19:35 ` Mark Brown 2011-01-24 19:35 ` Mark Brown 2011-01-24 19:52 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 19:52 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 20:26 ` Mark Brown 2011-01-24 20:26 ` Mark Brown 2011-01-24 20:52 ` Colin Cross [this message] 2011-01-24 20:52 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 21:08 ` Mark Brown 2011-01-24 21:08 ` Mark Brown 2011-01-24 21:24 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 21:24 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-25 4:26 ` Kyungmin Park 2011-01-25 4:26 ` Kyungmin Park 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 21/28] ARM: tegra: Allow overriding arch_reset Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 22/28] ARM: tegra: dma: Fix critical data corruption bugs Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 23/28] ARM: tegra: add tegra_defconfig Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 24/28] ARM: tegra: Use writel_relaxed in tegra_init_cache Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 25/28] ARM: tegra: suspend: Save protected aperture across LP0 Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 26/28] ARM: tegra: suspend: protect suspend functions with CONFIG_PM Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 27/28] ARM: tegra: enable emc clock updates after lp0 Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` [PATCH v2 28/28] ARM: tegra: clock: Add forward reference to struct clk Colin Cross 2011-01-24 2:01 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-24 10:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-01-24 10:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-01-25 1:23 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-25 1:23 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-26 3:19 ` Grant Likely 2011-01-26 3:19 ` Grant Likely 2011-01-26 3:21 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-26 3:21 ` Colin Cross 2011-01-26 4:16 ` Grant Likely 2011-01-26 4:16 ` Grant Likely 2011-01-25 10:56 [PATCH v2 20/28] ARM: tegra: cpufreq: Disable cpufreq during suspend MyungJoo Ham 2011-01-25 12:40 ` Mark Brown 2011-01-25 12:40 ` Mark Brown
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