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From: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Rafael Aquini <aquini@linux.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] mm: introduce compaction and migration for virtio ballooned pages
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 09:26:57 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120803122656.GB1848@t510.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120723023332.GA6832@bbox>

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:33:32AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> Look at memory-hotplug, offline_page calls has_unmovable_pages, scan_lru_pages
> and do_migrate_range which calls isolate_lru_page. They consider only LRU pages
> to migratable ones.
>
As promised, I looked into those bits. Yes, they only isolate LRU pages, and as
such, having this series merged or not doesn't change a bit for that code path.
In fact, having this series merged and teaching hotplug's
offline_pages()/do_migrate_rage() about ballooned pages might be extremely
beneficial in the rare event offlining memory stumbles across a balloon page.

As Rik said, I believe this is something we can look into in the near future.
 
> IMHO, better approach is that after we can get complete free pageblocks
> by compaction or reclaim, move balloon pages into that pageblocks and make
> that blocks to unmovable. It can prevent fragmentation and it makes
> current or future code don't need to consider balloon page.
> 
I totally agree with Rik on this one, as well. This is the wrong approach here.

All that said, I'll soon respin a v5 based on your comments on branch hinting and
commentary improvements, as well as addressing AKPM's concerns. I'll also revert
isolate_balloon_page() last changes back to make it a public symbol again, as
(I believe) we'll shortly be using it for letting hotplug bits aware of how to
isolate ballooned pages.



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From: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Rafael Aquini <aquini@linux.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] mm: introduce compaction and migration for virtio ballooned pages
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 09:26:57 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120803122656.GB1848@t510.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120723023332.GA6832@bbox>

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:33:32AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> Look at memory-hotplug, offline_page calls has_unmovable_pages, scan_lru_pages
> and do_migrate_range which calls isolate_lru_page. They consider only LRU pages
> to migratable ones.
>
As promised, I looked into those bits. Yes, they only isolate LRU pages, and as
such, having this series merged or not doesn't change a bit for that code path.
In fact, having this series merged and teaching hotplug's
offline_pages()/do_migrate_rage() about ballooned pages might be extremely
beneficial in the rare event offlining memory stumbles across a balloon page.

As Rik said, I believe this is something we can look into in the near future.
 
> IMHO, better approach is that after we can get complete free pageblocks
> by compaction or reclaim, move balloon pages into that pageblocks and make
> that blocks to unmovable. It can prevent fragmentation and it makes
> current or future code don't need to consider balloon page.
> 
I totally agree with Rik on this one, as well. This is the wrong approach here.

All that said, I'll soon respin a v5 based on your comments on branch hinting and
commentary improvements, as well as addressing AKPM's concerns. I'll also revert
isolate_balloon_page() last changes back to make it a public symbol again, as
(I believe) we'll shortly be using it for letting hotplug bits aware of how to
isolate ballooned pages.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-03 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-17 16:50 [PATCH v4 0/3] make balloon pages movable by compaction Rafael Aquini
2012-07-17 16:50 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-17 16:50 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm: introduce compaction and migration for virtio ballooned pages Rafael Aquini
2012-07-17 16:50 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-17 16:50   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-18  5:48   ` Minchan Kim
2012-07-18  5:48   ` Minchan Kim
2012-07-18  5:48     ` Minchan Kim
2012-07-20 19:48     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-20 19:48       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-20 19:48       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-23  2:33       ` Minchan Kim
2012-07-23  2:33       ` Minchan Kim
2012-07-23  2:33         ` Minchan Kim
2012-07-23  2:35         ` Minchan Kim
2012-07-23  2:35         ` Minchan Kim
2012-07-23  2:35           ` Minchan Kim
2012-07-23 18:19         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-23 18:19           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-23 18:19           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-01 20:53           ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-01 20:53             ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-03 11:13             ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-03 11:13               ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-03 11:13               ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-01 20:53           ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-01 20:51         ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-01 20:51         ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-01 20:51           ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-03 12:26         ` Rafael Aquini [this message]
2012-08-03 12:26           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-03 12:26         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-18 22:46   ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-18 22:46     ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-18 22:46     ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-18 23:07     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-18 23:07     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-18 23:07       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-18 23:12       ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-18 23:12         ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-18 23:12         ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-19  1:00         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-19  1:00         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-19  1:00           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-19  1:29           ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-19  1:29           ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-19  1:29             ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-19 12:32             ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-19 12:32               ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-19 12:32               ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-17 16:50 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] virtio_balloon: introduce migration primitives to balloon pages Rafael Aquini
2012-07-17 16:50   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-18 22:49   ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-18 22:49     ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-18 22:49     ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-18 23:16     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-18 23:16     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-18 23:16       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-17 16:50 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-17 16:50 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] mm: add vm event counters for balloon pages compaction Rafael Aquini
2012-07-17 16:50 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-17 16:50   ` Rafael Aquini

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