From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, devel@openvz.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/13] kmem accounting basic infrastructure
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:34:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120926193417.GJ12544@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50634FC9.4090609@parallels.com>
Hello,
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:56:09PM +0400, Glauber Costa wrote:
> For me, it is the other way around: it makes perfect sense to have a
> per-subtree selection of features where it doesn't hurt us, provided it
> is hierarchical. For the mere fact that not every application is
> interested in this (Michal is the one that is being so far more vocal
> about this not being needed in some use cases), and it is perfectly
> valid to imagine such applications would coexist.
>
> So given the flexibility it brings, the real question is, as I said,
> backwards: what is it necessary to make it a global switch ?
Because it hurts my head and it's better to keep things simple. We're
planning to retire .use_hierarhcy in sub hierarchies and I'd really
like to prevent another fiasco like that unless there absolutely is no
way around it. Flexibility where necessary is fine but let's please
try our best to avoid over-designing things. We've been far too good
at getting lost in flexbility maze. Michal, care to chime in?
Thanks.
--
tejun
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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, devel@openvz.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/13] kmem accounting basic infrastructure
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:34:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120926193417.GJ12544@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50634FC9.4090609@parallels.com>
Hello,
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:56:09PM +0400, Glauber Costa wrote:
> For me, it is the other way around: it makes perfect sense to have a
> per-subtree selection of features where it doesn't hurt us, provided it
> is hierarchical. For the mere fact that not every application is
> interested in this (Michal is the one that is being so far more vocal
> about this not being needed in some use cases), and it is perfectly
> valid to imagine such applications would coexist.
>
> So given the flexibility it brings, the real question is, as I said,
> backwards: what is it necessary to make it a global switch ?
Because it hurts my head and it's better to keep things simple. We're
planning to retire .use_hierarhcy in sub hierarchies and I'd really
like to prevent another fiasco like that unless there absolutely is no
way around it. Flexibility where necessary is fine but let's please
try our best to avoid over-designing things. We've been far too good
at getting lost in flexbility maze. Michal, care to chime in?
Thanks.
--
tejun
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To: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/13] kmem accounting basic infrastructure
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:34:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120926193417.GJ12544@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50634FC9.4090609-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
Hello,
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:56:09PM +0400, Glauber Costa wrote:
> For me, it is the other way around: it makes perfect sense to have a
> per-subtree selection of features where it doesn't hurt us, provided it
> is hierarchical. For the mere fact that not every application is
> interested in this (Michal is the one that is being so far more vocal
> about this not being needed in some use cases), and it is perfectly
> valid to imagine such applications would coexist.
>
> So given the flexibility it brings, the real question is, as I said,
> backwards: what is it necessary to make it a global switch ?
Because it hurts my head and it's better to keep things simple. We're
planning to retire .use_hierarhcy in sub hierarchies and I'd really
like to prevent another fiasco like that unless there absolutely is no
way around it. Flexibility where necessary is fine but let's please
try our best to avoid over-designing things. We've been far too good
at getting lost in flexbility maze. Michal, care to chime in?
Thanks.
--
tejun
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2012-09-18 14:03 [PATCH v3 00/13] kmem controller for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:03 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 18:48 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-01 18:48 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-09-18 14:03 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 19:00 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-01 19:00 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 19:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-01 19:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-01 19:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-02 9:10 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-02 9:10 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] kmem accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-21 16:34 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-21 16:34 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-24 8:09 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-24 8:09 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-24 8:09 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 14:03 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 14:03 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 14:03 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 14:33 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 14:33 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 16:01 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 16:01 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 16:01 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 17:34 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 17:34 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 16:36 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 16:36 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 16:36 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 17:36 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 17:36 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 17:44 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 17:44 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 17:44 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 17:53 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 17:53 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 18:01 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 18:01 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 18:56 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 18:56 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 18:56 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 19:34 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2012-09-26 19:34 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 19:34 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 19:46 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 19:46 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 19:56 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 19:56 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 19:56 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 20:02 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 20:02 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 20:16 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 20:16 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 20:16 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 21:24 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 21:24 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 22:10 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 22:10 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 22:10 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 22:29 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 22:29 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 22:42 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 22:42 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 22:42 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 22:54 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 22:54 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 23:08 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 23:08 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 23:08 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 23:20 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 23:20 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 23:33 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 23:33 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 12:15 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:15 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:15 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:20 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 12:20 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 12:40 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:40 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:40 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:40 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 12:40 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 12:40 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 12:54 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:54 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 14:28 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 14:28 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 14:28 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 14:49 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 14:49 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 14:57 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 14:57 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 17:46 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 17:46 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 17:46 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 17:56 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 17:56 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 18:45 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 18:45 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-30 7:57 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30 7:57 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30 7:57 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30 8:02 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30 8:02 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30 8:56 ` James Bottomley
2012-09-30 8:56 ` James Bottomley
2012-09-30 8:56 ` James Bottomley
2012-09-30 10:37 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30 10:37 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30 10:37 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30 11:25 ` James Bottomley
2012-09-30 11:25 ` James Bottomley
2012-10-01 0:57 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01 0:57 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01 0:57 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01 8:43 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 8:43 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 8:46 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 8:46 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-03 22:59 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-03 22:59 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01 8:36 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 8:36 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 12:08 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:08 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:08 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:11 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 12:11 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 14:33 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 14:33 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 14:43 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 14:43 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 14:43 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 14:58 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 14:58 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 18:30 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 18:30 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-30 8:23 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30 8:23 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01 8:45 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 8:45 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-03 22:54 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-03 22:54 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-04 11:55 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-04 11:55 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-06 2:19 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-06 2:19 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-06 2:19 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 15:09 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 15:09 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-30 8:47 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30 8:47 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01 9:27 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 9:27 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-03 22:43 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-03 22:43 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-03 22:43 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-05 13:47 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-05 13:47 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-05 13:47 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 22:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-09-26 22:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-09-26 22:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-09-26 22:45 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 22:45 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:15 ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-18 14:15 ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-18 15:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-09-18 15:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-09-18 15:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-09-19 7:39 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-19 7:39 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-19 7:39 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-19 14:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-09-19 14:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-09-19 14:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-09-27 13:34 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 13:34 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 13:41 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 13:41 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 19:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-01 19:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-20 16:05 ` JoonSoo Kim
2012-09-20 16:05 ` JoonSoo Kim
2012-09-20 16:05 ` JoonSoo Kim
2012-09-21 8:41 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-21 8:41 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-21 8:41 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-21 9:14 ` JoonSoo Kim
2012-09-21 9:14 ` JoonSoo Kim
2012-09-26 15:51 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 15:51 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 15:51 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 11:31 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 11:31 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 13:44 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 13:44 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 13:44 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-28 11:34 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-28 11:34 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-28 11:34 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-30 8:25 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30 8:25 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01 8:28 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 8:28 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-03 22:11 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-03 22:11 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-03 22:11 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01 9:44 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 9:44 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 9:44 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 9:48 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 9:48 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 9:48 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 10:09 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 10:09 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 11:51 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 11:51 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 11:51 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 11:51 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 11:51 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 11:58 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 11:58 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 13:50 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 13:50 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-28 9:43 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-28 9:43 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-28 9:43 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-28 13:28 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-28 13:28 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 13:52 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 13:52 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 13:52 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] res_counter: return amount of charges after res_counter_uncharge Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 10:00 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 10:00 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 10:01 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 10:01 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] memcg: kmem accounting lifecycle management Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:15 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:15 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:15 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:29 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:29 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:29 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:36 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:36 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:36 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:43 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:43 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:43 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] memcg: use static branches when code not in use Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:25 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:25 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:27 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:27 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:27 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:30 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:30 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:30 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] execute the whole memcg freeing in rcu callback Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-21 17:23 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-21 17:23 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-21 17:23 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-24 8:48 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-24 8:48 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-24 8:48 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 13:27 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 13:27 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 13:27 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-04 10:53 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-04 10:53 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-04 10:53 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-04 14:20 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-04 14:20 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-05 15:31 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-05 15:31 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-05 15:31 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-08 9:45 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 9:45 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 13:17 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 13:17 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 13:17 ` Michal Hocko
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